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Anne Boleyn's coin restoration
May 24, 2012
3:15 pm
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NanBoleyn
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Has anyone discussed the Coin restoration? I don’t agree with the conclusion at Art History News. Do you?
If this topic is under discussion somewhere in the forum, please direct me to the thread.

http://www.arthistorynews.com/…..l_restored

May 24, 2012
4:02 pm
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I haven’t heard of it but I fully support it, they say it holds the “true face” of Anne. Which is something I really really want to see.
Lol. Laugh

• Grumble all you like, this is how it’s going to be.

May 24, 2012
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Thanks for posting this. Actually I rather like the ‘restoration’. I don’t know if it’s the “true face” of Anne – it’s difficult to a get a true likeness on a coin/medal and 16th century methods were cruder than todays. I’ve always felt that the medal had more in common with the other Holbein sketch rahter than the ‘undressed’ one, and with the restoration copy I think the mouth and nose are very similar.

May 24, 2012
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I have seen this on FB. I like the restoration. Whether it’s Anne’s “true face” is debatable. It was the last line of that article got me. I always thought the ring that Elizabeth wore held the images of herself and her mother. Now that’s in doubt? When did that happen?

“Before people write in mentioning the ‘Anne Boleyn ring’, I’m afraid I don’t entirely believe it. The image is, in my view, more likely to be a representation of the young Elizabeth.”

May 24, 2012
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I don’t agree the image in the ring is a young Elizabeth. For one thing it looks nothing like the portrait of Elizabeth as a teenager. But I do wonder if portraits of Anne dating from the late 16th century were deliberately based on Elizabeths facial features (based on the proto-type of Elizabeth). Especially the NPG portrait of Anne. It would account for their supposed facial similarities.

May 25, 2012
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Bella 44, I agree with you. I actually took the sketch from Holbein the younger and flipped it have face the same way as the coin. To me, it appears to match. But again, it could be my desire to make it so. There is something in that sketch that draws me in.

Sharon, the same thought came to me when I read the last line of the article. But I could not find any argument at the site to back up the claim.

I’ve read somewhere that the image in the ring is Katherine Parr, it looks nothing like KP, the facial features do not match.

May 25, 2012
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I agree. I believe it is Anne.
Funny there was no follow up to that statement, NanBoleyn. I have also read where they thought it might be Katherine Parr. I don’t see that. I’m not crazy about the Holbein sketch, but I know what you mean when you say it draws you in. Maybe it’s the way she is dressed or the fact that she’s looking down, but I think Anne looks vulnerable in the sketch.
Bella, I have often wondered if they used Elizabeth’s facial features for Anne’s portraits also. Elizabeth didn’t have the round face of her father. It’s entirely possible that her features were the same as her mother’s.

May 26, 2012
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This is the sketch that I flipped to compare to the coin. I took the coin, then the sketch, then the Hever Castle portrait. Then I compared the three. I wish I could upload the comparison…
http://tudorhistory.org/boleyn…..anneBW.jpg

May 26, 2012
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NanBoleyn said

This is the sketch that I flipped to compare to the coin. I took the coin, then the sketch, then the Hever Castle portrait. Then I compared the three. I wish I could upload the comparison…
http://tudorhistory.org/boleyn…..anneBW.jpg

Very interesting Nan, I’ve just looked at the ring portrait, no doubt about the bottom portrait, that’s Elizabeth alright, but the top Portrait well it may be a young Elizabeth, but what about it being a portrait of Mary her sister? Yeah I know it’s a wacky Idea, but Sharon and a few others know my wacky off the latch ideas by now..
But it would kind of make sence to be a picture of Mary, as I do feel that she had some genuine affection for Mary despite their religious difficulties.
Mary as we know make a complete Dog’s Breakfast of ruling, and Elizabeth was determined not to screw up like her sister did, so how better to remind her not to make the same mistakes as her, by carrying a keepsake photo of her.. On the other hand the Picture could be of K.P as she was really the only mother she had, next to Kat.
It may be as some people think it is, a portrait of her mother, but I given to believe that Anne’s portraits save for a few were destroyed, by Lard arse. Of course there would be a few scattered about still as Lard Arse couldn’t really think he got rid of all of them.
Again if it is Anne, which to be honest I think it is, it’s possible that the portrait was a copy of a portrait found at Hever. Lard Arse gave AOC the house as part of her divorce settlement so it possibly stands to reason that would be a few things hidden away by the Boleyns to prevent looters after their death’s. Good one Nan..

Semper Fidelis, quod sum quod

May 26, 2012
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Boleyn, Smile You always make me smile!

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