Steve J
It wouldn’t have mattered anyway if Anne had agreed with Henry’s suggestion, Elizabeth was named a bastard anyway, once Cramner had declared Henry and Anne marriage null and void. Anne to my mind is a very brave self sacrificing brilliant and beautiful person both inside and out. She sacrificed her own life to save Elizabeth’s. Did she perhaps have the foresight to see just how England would turn out under her daughters rule?
Anne’s sacrifice changed the world. It’s my personal opinion that Anne was the first woman to speak out for the rights for woman to be considered and treated as equals in the male dominated sociaty that was England. What Anne started Elizabeth proved that she was as good as any man and could rule a country and it’s people with a with a rod of iron and keep England safe from all forgien invaders, who sought to put her in her place.
In some films about Elizabeth there is a scene where she is addressing the troops at Tilbury to allieve their fears about the comming armada which as you know was sent by Philip of Spain in retaliation of Mary Queen of Scots execution. The saying goes ” I may have the body of a week and feeble woman but I have the heart and stomach of a King and a King of England too.” However I must point out that Elizabeth never actually said this. I believe Shakespeare was the one responsible for this statement, but whoever made it up it was true. Elizabeth may have been a woman but by God what a man she was if you understand my meaning.
It wasn’t until 1544 that Henry changed his mind and declared or agreed that Elizabeth was his daughter and re-instated both her and her half sister Mary back in line of the succession. Which as you know went Edward and his heirs, if he died without issue, the throne would got to Mary and her heirs, if she died without issue the throne would go to Elizabeth. After Elizabeth would come the children of his favourite younger sister Mary. We know that the Dudley’s attempted and failed to put Lady Jane Grey on the throne, after Edward, the poor hapless girl reigned for just 9 days, before Mary took the throne away from her, and was rightfully crowned as Queen.
Henry’s Elder sister Margaret and her heirs should have come before Her younger sister’s heirs, but Henry had barred Margaret’s heirs from inheriting the English throne, basically because Henry was a git.
However today’s monachy stems from Henry’s elder sister’s heirs, so Margaret had the last laugh on Henry after all.

Boleyn said

It wasn’t until 1544 that Henry changed his mind and declared or agreed that Elizabeth was his daughter and re-instated both her and her half sister Mary back in line of the succession.

Henry always treated Elizabeth as his daughter, though making her a bastard following her mothers fall..He set up her post-Anne household with sober and predominatly eldery servitors who were to direct her moral education “in the correct way” Elizabeth fell though the cracks after her mother’s fall and during the early months of Jane’s queenship. After that she was not quite restored but certainly alowed to bask on her father’s reflecting gloery.

Sharon
A git is Henry LOL
GIT
n Brit slang
1. a contemptible person, often a fool.
2. a bastard.
Describes the Lard arse to a T me thinks.

I finally managed to find a bit of time to watch this, and actually I found it very interesting. I actually feel that the whole thing was a masterminded plot of spite and malice directed at Anne by Cromwell, it would make sence. Although Henry more or less did what he wanted when he wanted he did have moments where he listened to Anne’s advice which of course was contary to what Cromwell wanted. So it’s perfectly possible that he did invent the whole thing up to get rid of Anne so that he could pull Henry’s strings solely. If you look at it as well it was alledged that out of all those accused with Anne only Smeaton was supposed to have confessed. Why? well it said in the documentary that there wasn’t any evidence to suggest Mark had been tortured, but I think we can safely say he was. The other accused with Anne were of course Gentleman and I don’t think even Lard arse would agree to the use of torture on the gentry.
Anne was railroaded into her death and that to me is the sickening part of the whole thing. Just goes to prove that Cromwell how ruthless and determined Cromell was to have the whole control of the King.
Why oh why did they have S.W.M.N.B.N on it? Perhaps I should let my chipmunks loose of her, they could soom crap and piss all over her and all it will cost is a few peanuts…