Melissa,

I've never heard about this or come across their website anywhere, but I am intrigued and shall check it out. There are some crazy theories out there about most things, but I've never read anything about the claims these two make. It is amazing how people who claim they know or own the Truth never actual get around to saying what it is. I guess it's easier to be a talking head then to conduct thorough research, documented and cited.

I take offence, like you, to anything negativley said about The Anne Boleyn Files. This is a great website, run by an amazing woman, whose hard work does Anne Boleyn fans proud. I would never describe this website as crass or tastless. The only crass or tasteless thing are people like McGowan and Coppens, who like to bash respected and astute historians for their own pleasure and self-gain.

Melissa,

I went to the site and read what they had to say.  It sounded so much like the Da Vinci Code, it cracked me up.  “The Holbien Code”…Book must be in the works.  If I remember right the place they spoke of in France was woven into Browne's story.  I can't remember if it was in the Da Vinci Code or Angels and Demons.  I loved these books but they were fiction.  Browne was very explicit about that. 

The way they referred to this website was insulting. The time and energy Claire puts into the ABFiles comes from her pure devotion to telling the truth about Anne and the times in which she lived.  How sad that in order to promote their theory, they feel the need to insult Claire.

I can't believe they take on Ives with such a cheap shot….Still ROTFL!

Oh yeah this site!  I visit it every so often just for a good laugh    

I made the mistake of reading Kathleen McGowans' book on Mary Magdalene.  A complete Da Vinci Code rip off and completely and utterly awful and just made worse by the fact that the author actually believes these crack-pot theories.  Unlike Dan Brown, as Sharon said, who never presented his books as anything other than fiction.  And now she's carrying on the madness and dragging Anne Boleyn into it….  Total fruit-loop.

And to insult Claire and all her hard work she puts into this site and all it's intelligent, well-informed members and visitors is just beyond the pale IMO.  And to slag off respected historians just to promote their own whacked-out agenda makes me mad too.  As for their supposed book on Anne, I shall avoid it like the plague.

IIRC there was a whole load of stuff on the FB page, The History Police about them.

Mya said:

In which part of the article do they insult The AB files? …..

On the website Anne Boleyn.com.  On their homepage they take a dig at other sites on Anne and how they're junked up by advertising and tatty products, though they're careful not to name this site specifically.  And they're not trying to sell their crappy book and theories?!

If these people want to espouse a different Anne theory, that's fine.  But don't take pot-shots at other people who don't share your ideas.  There are several historians who disagree on various aspects of Anne, but no one else tries to act like there's some big conspiracy out there to conceal the so-called “truth”.  Or to pretend that their research is more valid than someone else's.

I wonder what Starkey, Ives, and all the rest think of these two crackpots.

MegC said:

If these people want to espouse a different Anne theory, that's fine.  But don't take pot-shots at other people who don't share your ideas.  There are several historians who disagree on various aspects of Anne, but no one else tries to act like there's some big conspiracy out there to conceal the so-called “truth”.  Or to pretend that their research is more valid than someone else's.

I wonder what Starkey, Ives, and all the rest think of these two crackpots.

Oh I would love to hear Starkey's views

I think Bernard references this site on p194 although he doesn't attribute the quote.

I have come across this before, on the 'Anne Boleyn' facebook page. He was slamming other historians for ignoring sources and yet refused to name his own. Basically spent his entire time bagging Ives. Complete weirdo.

Kim said:

I have come across this before, on the 'Anne Boleyn' facebook page. He was slamming other historians for ignoring sources and yet refused to name his own. Basically spent his entire time bagging Ives. Complete weirdo.

I'm reminded of a Terry Pratchett quote from Lords and Ladies which I'm paraphasing badly…

He got his information form self-evident sources, he made it up , and extrapolation from other valuable sources, which were also made up.