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May 19, 2011
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BoleynBlue
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I am reading Six wives by David Starkey, and when Anne is taken to the tower, he claims that Anne asks Mr Kingston if she is to go to the dungeon, when she is told she is to go in to her lodgings, Anne breaks down and cries. “It is too good for me, jesu have mercy on me.”

 

What could have Anne meant by this? my first thought when I read this quote was that she was actually guilty of what she had been accused of, but I really dont believe she was and there was no real evidence of any wrong doings, only a King who wanted rid of her.

 

Your thoughts please.

May 22, 2011
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Anne was  innocent. That quote was also used in The Tudors by Natalie Dormer when she's taken to the tower. Honestly i don't know what to think of it. If the rumor Anne's father and Uncle pushed her into all of it was true than maybe she was remembering that or something. Maybe she thought the charges were so great that she should be in a dungeon but i don't know why. Confused

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May 27, 2011
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That is a good point, thank you.

May 27, 2011
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I think she wondered whether Henry would have her tortured and thrown into a dank cell with smelly straw on the floor. When told she would be housed in the apartments she'd stayed in prior to her coronation, I think she was overcome with relief. I think she knew she would be found guilty of whatever Henry wanted her found guilty of, and knew she would be executed. Maybe she saw herself as a “dead man walking”, as the expression goes, so she was relieved that she would be treated better than she could have been treated.

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May 27, 2011
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Impish_Impulse said:

I think she wondered whether Henry would have her tortured and thrown into a dank cell with smelly straw on the floor. When told she would be housed in the apartments she'd stayed in prior to her coronation, I think she was overcome with relief. I think she knew she would be found guilty of whatever Henry wanted her found guilty of, and knew she would be executed. Maybe she saw herself as a “dead man walking”, as the expression goes, so she was relieved that she would be treated better than she could have been treated.


I agree…Anne knew how vindictive H8 could be when challanged.

 

That Anne was placed in better conditons than than an “ordinary traitor” such as Thomas More or Fisher was part of how some-one

( Cromwell???) would have shown how easily her status would have/could have/may be changed if she tried to circumvent the legal process. After all..Anne faced burning at the stake for her crimes. Beheading was a far more merciful death.

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May 28, 2011
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The only thing Anne was guilty of was being a bit haughty at times, which she mentions in her confession. Considering that she and Henry constantly had furious rows and passionate make-up's she may have been wondering if Henry would relent and release her… This is theorized by historians based on Annes reported behaviour and sayings whilst in the Tower.

Perhaps saying this, Anne was hoping to demonstrate her new found humility and express her appreciation for Henry's “kindness” in the past.

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May 28, 2011
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All good points thank you.

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