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What does everyone think about this portrait?
May 12, 2011
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Claire-Louise
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I don't known if this has been a topic before, but I was just wondering what everyone thinks of this portrait of Anne. To me it's just not as I picture her, and I also think it has a slight resemblance to Jane Seymour.

 

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May 12, 2011
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I actually like this portrait!  I think it shows an older, more mature Anne that looks comfortable with her role as queen.  That is if it is her! It definitely has her jewellery and if you look closely the necklace chains are kind of similar to the ones Jane Seymour wears.  Also I think the face looks like an elder version of the NPG portrait.  I'd love to think it was painted from life but if it is Anne (and not one of her Boleyn relations) then it probably wasn't and is a copy of lost original.

May 12, 2011
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I don't like it, either. It looks (to me) nothing like the NPG or Hever portraits that are what I think of when I think of Anne. If it IS a copy of a lost original, it was poorly done. And Lord knows there are a LOT of poorly done copies of portraits out there!

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May 13, 2011
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I don't like it.  What's with the gable hood?

May 13, 2011
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A horrible portrait of Anne, if it's really Anne. I looks nothing like either NPG or Hever. I am not a fan of gable hoods, although there is evidence to suggest Anne did wear gable hoods on some occasions.

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May 13, 2011
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I'm not personally a fan of this particular portrait.  Something is off and it took me a little while to figure out what it was, but here it is:  Anne certainly looks more mature in this portrait, but the only time I can imagine her wearing a gable hood is during the time that she was a lady in waiting to KoA–in which case, she would have been SIGNIFICANTLY younger than this portrait portrays her as.

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May 14, 2011
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Noooo, don't like it at all, lol!

Just doesn't look like the Anne we know and love Smile

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May 14, 2011
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Hmmm maybe it is just the gable hood….and then those Jane Seymour necklaces. I've read in a couple of books, I think Alison Weir's Lady in the Tower was one of them, that this is how Anne would have looked at the time of her fall. I was just like 'Nope, definitely not Anne' and thought I was the only one so good to hear that other people think the same Smile

May 14, 2011
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I really dislike the Gable hood. It just doesn't appear to flatter  any woman.

 

I can see Anne wearing a Gable to project the image of the sober, Godly matron that she was in later life though.

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May 14, 2011
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  The gable hood is a symbol of a past era.  When Anne came to court she brought with her the style of the french hood and dress.  She made the fashion popular in England.  It doesn't surprise me that she might choose to wear one once in a while, but It does surprise me that she would have a portrait painted of herself wearing one.  If that's her.

May 15, 2011
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There's a coin believed to be Anne wearing a gable hood from her time as Queen. I am not suggesting the portrait is Anne, but this coin suggests Anne may have worn a gable hood at times. Perhaps she wanted to reinforce the Queenly tradition of gable hoods and what they represented. Not sure. Any thoughts?

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May 15, 2011
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You are correct DOB, the Medal Coin dates from 1534 and was issued to celebrate Anne's second pregnancy, on it she is portrayed wearing a gable hood. Perhaps, given the reason for the coin's production, this attire was chosen as being more seemly for Anne's position and standing.

May 16, 2011
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DuchessofBrittany said:

There's a coin believed to be Anne wearing a gable hood from her time as Queen. I am not suggesting the portrait is Anne, but this coin suggests Anne may have worn a gable hood at times. Perhaps she wanted to reinforce the Queenly tradition of gable hoods and what they represented. Not sure. Any thoughts?


 I forgot about the coin. I think perhaps if this is a picture of Anne, what a lot of us don't like about it is that it doesn't seem to capture Anne's personality in the way that other portraits ( such as the NPG portrait) do. Actually it would be interesting to have a go at painting/drawing this in a slightly different way, perhaps without them necklaces and with pearls instead, and perhaps put a bit more sparkle in the eyes, maybe with a few subtle changes it could begin to look more like the Anne we all imagine. 

May 16, 2011
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Claire-Louise said:


 I forgot about the coin. I think perhaps if this is a picture of Anne, what a lot of us don't like about it is that it doesn't seem to capture Anne's personality in the way that other portraits ( such as the NPG portrait) do. Actually it would be interesting to have a go at painting/drawing this in a slightly different way, perhaps without them necklaces and with pearls instead, and perhaps put a bit more sparkle in the eyes, maybe with a few subtle changes it could begin to look more like the Anne we all imagine. 


I think you've touch on something here. Anne does lack the sex appeal and personality of other portraits. I would love to have the artistic talent to rework this, but alas, no! But, I would love to see someone's interpretation of this portrait, but without that hideous gable hood, which does nothing for anyone.

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May 17, 2011
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DuchessofBrittany said:

Claire-Louise said:


 I forgot about the coin. I think perhaps if this is a picture of Anne, what a lot of us don't like about it is that it doesn't seem to capture Anne's personality in the way that other portraits ( such as the NPG portrait) do. Actually it would be interesting to have a go at painting/drawing this in a slightly different way, perhaps without them necklaces and with pearls instead, and perhaps put a bit more sparkle in the eyes, maybe with a few subtle changes it could begin to look more like the Anne we all imagine. 


I think you've touch on something here. Anne does lack the sex appeal and personality of other portraits. I would love to have the artistic talent to rework this, but alas, no! But, I would love to see someone's interpretation of this portrait, but without that hideous gable hood, which does nothing for anyone.


I'm afraid I'm no artist but I do enjoy drawing, so I'll have a little go at a sketch of this and post it Smile

May 17, 2011
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  Image EnlargerOk I know this is a terrible drawing and VERY cartoonish, but hopefully it gives an impression of how different the portrait could look with just a few small changes. Don't worry DOB, I'll draw one with a french hood too. Also is there anyone on here with a deviantart account? I've just got one as it was the only way I could post the image on here- I'm such a technophobe and don't actually know how to use it! Laugh

May 17, 2011
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Claire-Louise said:

DuchessofBrittany said:

There's a coin believed to be Anne wearing a gable hood from her time as Queen. I am not suggesting the portrait is Anne, but this coin suggests Anne may have worn a gable hood at times. Perhaps she wanted to reinforce the Queenly tradition of gable hoods and what they represented. Not sure. Any thoughts?


I forgot about the coin. I think perhaps if this is a picture of Anne, what a lot of us don't like about it is that it doesn't seem to capture Anne's personality in the way that other portraits ( such as the NPG portrait) do. Actually it would be interesting to have a go at painting/drawing this in a slightly different way, perhaps without them necklaces and with pearls instead, and perhaps put a bit more sparkle in the eyes, maybe with a few subtle changes it could begin to look more like the Anne we all imagine.
 


I think this hits the nail on the head!  She looks so TIRED and OLD in this picture!  If you make the image larger and look at the eyes, it's like she has no energy left in her.  If this was painted while she was still alive, it was done towards the end.  After Jane Seymour came on the scene.  Perhaps that explains the presence of the gabled hood if Anne was trying to salvage her image and appear more demure.

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May 17, 2011
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I like this, Claire-Louise. Anne has more expression in her face, which takes away from the gable hood and opens up her apperance. In your drawing, I did not immediatley notice the hood; rather I was drawn to Anne's expression and her eyes (always her best feature!). Thanks for posting. Great job!

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May 17, 2011
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DuchessofBrittany said:

I like this, Claire-Louise. Anne has more expression in her face, which takes away from the gable hood and opens up her apperance. In your drawing, I did not immediatley notice the hood; rather I was drawn to Anne's expression and her eyes (always her best feature!). Thanks for posting. Great job!


Thanks DuchessofBrittany I'm glad you like it Smile I thought I'd attempt the gable hood first and see what it turned out like, and then try reinterpreting the portrait with a french hood but I think we might have solved it-it's the lack of expression that we don't like in this painting, we feel like we need to see Anne's wit and charm shining through the picture in oder to believe it is her.

May 17, 2011
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Oh dear no, this cannot be the bright, extroverted and vivacious Anne Boleyn that we imagine from all the available reports and information that have survived. I agree: given the age of the woman in this portrait, it is unlikely she would have been shown in the by-then rather old-fashioned gable hood – even though this style did make a come-back with Anne's successor Jane Seymour. It does resemble the well-known Holbein portrait of Jane, in fact.

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