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Wydeville and Boleyn.
August 9, 2011
10:19 pm
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Mya Elise
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I was reading 'Elizabeth – Englands slandered Queen' by Arlene Okerlund and within the very 1st chapter i some similarites in Anne Boleyn and Wydeville's…how do i say it? Um expertise..or ways of thinking perhaps?

Anyways in Thomas More's report of Edward IV coming on to Elizabeth was: (Straight out of the book)

'Whose appetite when she percieved, she virtuously denied him. But yet did she so wisely and with so good manner, and words so well set, that she rather kindled his desire than quenched it. And finally after many a meeting, much wooing, and many great promises, she well espied the King's affection toward her so greatly increased, that she durst somewhat the more boldly say her mind…And in conclusion, she showed him plainly that she knew herself too simple to be his wife, so thought she herself too good to be his concubine.'

Sound's a little familiar or deja vu-ish, eh?

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August 10, 2011
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And to add the this. People slandered Elizabeth just as much as Anne. In books writers have said Elizabeth was “calculating, ambitious, devious, greedy, ruthless and arrogant”.

Also that her family was “graspy and greedy” and that Edwards choice to marry her was “governed by lust only, not love”.

Seems like Henry's Grandmother had alot  in common with Henry's 2nd wife.

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August 10, 2011
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There was also suspicion and rumour that Elizabeth Wydville had used witchcraft to bewitch the king. Now where have we heard that one before?  Laugh

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August 10, 2011
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I know i meant to add that before! : ) hahaha yeah they said “A whispering campaign accused both Elizabeth and her mother, Jaquetta, of witch craft and sorcery in seducing Edward”. And went on to ask the question “Why else would a King, the handsomest man in England, marry a widow 5 years older than himself?” Obviously they were too foolish not to consider love.

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August 11, 2011
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What a great post! There's another thread entitled reincarnation- Mmm… maybe?

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August 12, 2011
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Mademoiselle Mya said:

Seems like Henry's Grandmother had a lot  in common with Henry's 2nd wife.


And apparently Henry himself had a lot in common with his grandfather, in how they reacted the same way when confronted by a desirable woman who nonetheless refused to be his mistress. The apple didn't fall far from the tree there, did it? He inherited more than his build from Edward.

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