Plus Fitzroy was “proof” that H8 could father sons and the “fault” wasn't with him.

I think I've read the same thing, MegC. Like you, though, “where” is the question…

Henry Fitzroy, like Anyanka said, was Henry's proof that he could sire sons. I think he wanted to prove that as much to himself as he wanted to prove it to the world.

Anastasia. I believe of Mary Boleyn’s children it was only Catherine who was assumed to be King Henry’s. Henry Carey was born in 1526, by which time the king had moved on, to her sister. The strange thing is that it’s been said that Henry Carey who found much favour in Elizabeth’s household, had a passing resemblance to the King when he was older.
It’s possible that the King fathered him but I don’t think so.
Catherine of Aragon also had a number of miscarriages, although strickly they can’t be counted as they never went to term, but in all I think there were protentionally 16 children.
You are quite right about 2 or 3 with Anne, but it depends on where you read it Some scholars say Elizabeth and 2 miscarriages, other say Elzabeth and 1 miscarriage. I’ve read somewhere, that Anne got pregnant as soon as she was churched, (genrally I believe that was around 6 weeks after childbirth) and that she carried the child a son, to term, only for it to die at a few hours old. I’m still in 2 minds over this.
John Malte Henry’s tailor claimed he was Etheldreda’s father and Henry gave him land and properties as a reward, or perhaps as a bribe to make sure the truth never got out, about who her father actually was. She accompanied Elizabeth to the tower when she was imprisoned there, and was also at Elizabeth’s coronation, dying later that same month. She married John Harriton who was in Thomas Seymour’s household, and had a daughter in 1550 called either Hester or Esther. Her husband remarried 2 months after her death to Isabella Markham who I believe was one of Elizabeth’s ladies in waiting.
If Etheldreda was Henry’s child it kind of backs up the theory that Henry had moved on, from his “relationship” with Mary Boleyn. Henry was the sort of man to be faithful to either his mistress or his wife. As soon as the mistress got pregnant she was really of no further use, and it was time to move on to pastures new. The only mistress as far as we know he stayed loyal to 100% was Anne, but once they were married things were very different. As it happens, thinking about this did Henry actually have any mistresses at all when he was courting Anne? I find it a little difficult to believe that he could hold out for 7 years before he got his way with Anne.
Etheldreda’s mother was believed to be a laundry maid in the royal household, but little is known about her save her name. Joan Dyngly or Dobson as it sometimes believed.

I don’t count Mary Boleyn’s children as being Henry’s. For me the affair with Mary was short and sweet and much earlier than the birth of her children. That’s just my personal opinion though.
Richmond, Mary, Elizabeth and Edward. Those are the children Henry acknowledged, and the only ones who lived. (at least into their teens) The rest is all speculation. The only other child that may have been Henry’s is Etheldreda. Again, that is speculation because Henry did not acknowledge her either. According to Philippa Jones, Etheldreda was born in 1535. Is this the book you are reading Anastasia? It should be taken with a grain of salt. Henry wasn’t really the type of man to bed anything in a skirt. That dubious honor falls to King Francis of France. It is possible I suppose, but I doubt all the children she claims are his in her book were actually Henry’s children.

I’ve never really given credence to ethier of mary’s children being Henry’s not William’s.

I know a lof of people point out the resemblance of Lettice Knollys to Elizabeth.
However looking at our 3 children , our oldest daughter looks more like her paternal cousins while the younger 2 look more like my sister’s sons. There s a similarity in the the facial features of all 3 but that’s all. Their colouring and and most recognisable features aren’t the same though.

However the 2 eldest, both girls are now growing up are starting to get similar heights and body shaes are starting to look more alike from a distance..Especialy now they have coloured thier hair over the summer holidays..

LOL Anyanka, and actually you do make a very valid point. The pressure on Anne to produce a son, must have been unbearable at times. I do think that when they were first married and she was pregnant, their marriage was one of all hearts and flowers, and the old Carl Porter moments.
If you think about it his whole case for his divorce/annulment from K.O.A, was hinged on a Leviticus text. If Anne produced a son first time around, he would have rubber stamped his arguement that he was right or should I say that is arguement was right and his actions fully justified in putting K.O.A aside. As it was the people had already pointed and laughed at him a hundred times or more with his Leviticus twaddle, in the first place. Anne producing Elizabeth, just made him and the whole arguement a bigger joke. All his divorce/annulment and ripping apart the whole fabric and foundations that England was for Anne, had simply put him right back where he had started from. A wife (younger model) and a useless girl, and no sons save bastards.
Dobbin the Wonderhorse LOL Perhaps Anne was after a stable relationship. Well it worked for Catherine the Great of Russia alledgely…