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5:53 pm
September 22, 2010
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I am not really religious,I believe more in the spiritual way.I believe in God and in justice,but also I’m a firm believer that we make our own Hell and Heaven.Certainly Henry did suffer(even a little)because of his illness.It’s difficult to imagine it but try thinking to live with a swolen,pained and almost rotten foot.Then again Henry can be seen as saint in comparison with people who rape and kill their children,so what is that gives justice?Perhaps forgiveness is not actually forgiviing crimes against you but actuallly stop trying to avenge your offender.Personally,I find some crimes unforgiven and no matter religion,God,if they are not paid during their lifetime,I wish there is punishment beyond death
1:09 pm
December 17, 2010
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It's kind of a New Age way of looking at the matter, but it seems to me that Henry lived in a hell of his own making. For all of his power, we have to wonder if her was ever really happy. After all, he was the second son struggling to live up to the precedent of excellence set by his brother Arthur. Henry VII didn't have much time or regard for a second son, and in fact Hal 8 was being raised for the church. That he became king at all was a tragic accident. I don't think all the warrior's prowess and buxom ladies and treasures in the world could have compensated for what he lacked in self-esteem. Indeed, perhaps these were his inner demons pushing him that have given history Henry's character. Additionally, he was likely obsessed with the lack of heirs, a continuously volatile situation on the continent, and a deep mistrust of the world in general.
Is Henry VIII in hell? He's already been through it.
8:09 pm
August 12, 2009
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Not good enough, IMO, considering the hell he regularly doled out to those around him.
"Don't knock at death's door.
Ring the bell and run. He hates that."
10:17 am
September 22, 2010
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I was thinking that,you know,Henry is kind of punished by history.His fame is based on things he didn't want to be associated while alive and he isn't exactly the most loved one!(I believe I read somewhere a list of 30 most despisable historical persons and he scored 9th!).What I want to say is that the first thing you say on Henry is that he is the one with the six wives(out of all six,it suited him to count only two!),the one who beheaded them once he tired of them and his greatest achievement is considered his daughter,someone who he didn't value.And funny thing that his disappointment-daughter(Elizabth) and her mother(whom he wanted erased from history) are more famous and loved than him!!!!So,if he can see us(especially us!),I'm sure he will be fuming and scowling!!!!
2:48 pm
June 7, 2010
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I agree, Anne. Henry's punishment is how history remembers him. Tyranny, cruelty, and depravity are synonymous with Henry. The thought of him burning in hell is actually a pleasant picture, especially for all the victims of his reign. I quite like how people associate Henry with all that was wrong with medieval and renaissance kinship, and reserve the more positive reviews for those he did wrong.
Furthermore, Henry's attempt to erase Anne's memory failed. This website and all its great members are proof of that. How Henry would hate that Anne upstaged him again.
Elizabeth became the great Tudor ruler, greater than Henry, and not the longed for son and heir. That alone should be punishment enough!
"By daily proof you shall find me to be to you both loving and kind" Anne Boleyn
12:38 pm
December 22, 2010
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Absolutely NOT!! Without getting to deep in religion I can safely say that to believe in Jesus Christ as the son of God gives you the key to Heaven. So Henry is in Heaven and has or will face the only one who can judge him for his actions here on earth. So are all people who believe. King Henry VIII, was a believer there is no doubt and that is all it took to keep him from the fires of Hell. I will say that he has a lot to answer for. It is also probably safe to say that he pretty much broke each and every commandment, but that being said, his belief in the Son of God has saved him from a life with Satin.
11:23 am
September 22, 2010
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That is an interesting taking!After all,although Henry was a tyrrant,we shouldn't forget the age in which he lived and the fact that he was a king.What he did was enlisted in his rights as King.He made the rules and after all,he indeed was religious.But I 'm a firm believer that he got what he gave
7:56 am
June 19, 2009
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Henry is an enigma, to look at him as a tyrant and unreasonable is justified by his actions. However, it is not all that we can say about him as with all people, he had some good points. History remembers him for the bad and no doubt, his bad actions put any good he did in the shade. Going back to this topic, “Is Henry VIII in Hell?” If not…
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If it was not this, then it would be something else?
8:48 am
January 10, 2011
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No i don't think Henry is in hell.
When i look to everything he did, i do not think that he is different than any other king or queen. I for myself am glad that i never lived in those times (although i am so fascinated by everything what happened, how they were living etc). Henry was a tiran, but it were dangerous times. Nothing was safe, yes he did terrible things, but so did other kings and queens, Isabella was a much respected and powerfull queen, but she expelled jews and moors, burned people, as did her grandson Charles V and his son Phillips of spain, i think hell would be full with all those kings and queens. Henry's tale is famous for his six wives and his story is full with scandals, but if you look to kings before him and after him and during his live in other countries, they were really not a hair better then him. Even the church killed who stood in their way, so no i don't think he deserves hell. I hope he is at peace, were ever he is.
I like the idea of re incarnation. But i am really not a religious person, i hope they are all at peace and have their well deserved rest in their own heaven in wich they believed.
2:08 pm
April 20, 2010
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If I had to guess, I would say yes…definitely….he would send people to the scaffold, and clean his fingernails while they were laying down their necks and saying kind words about him. And then he would blame THEM for making him issue a warrant of death…oh brother!
If you believe in purgatory, then he definitely spent a lot of time there….imo
7:17 pm
February 8, 2011
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Honestly, I don't think Henry would have ever “repented” for anything because I don't think he ever thought he was doing anything wrong. He thought he was the shining diamond among humanity.
Henry committed many sins: greed, lust, envy, wrath, gluttony, envy. I'm not sure if I would rule sloth in there though because I know he wanted to exercise and did up until he was too sick to do it anymore, regardless that's six out of the seven deadly sins right there. But at the same time if you're saying Henry should be in hell for all his murders than you're saying Elizabeth I as well as every other Monarch in World History should be in there too. Murder is murder, if we don't have the right to judge who belongs in hell and who belongs in heaven than we most certainly don't reserve the right to determine if someone is worthy of life or death.
I do really like this whole idea of Henry's punishment is how history remembers him. That gives me a whole new outlook on the people who ask me “Isn't he the King who killed all of his wives?”
6:31 am
January 17, 2011
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No I don't think Henry is in hell.
I think more like we think he could be in hell cos of the world we live in today, those times were just a way of life…..people knew nothing more. The events and times were accepted. Today we have human rights and we are shocked at even the smallest bit of cruelty but those days it was just life and the times they lived in so we automatically think they must be in hell and punishment for what we see as shocking cruel behaviour.
12:28 am
March 9, 2011
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I don't know if Henry VIII is in Hell now, but he certainly built his own unique Hell during his lifetime. I've seen very few individuals awarded so much love, adoration, unearned privilege, authority over a country and was dissatisfied with EVERYTHING because certain things weren't the way he wanted them.
7:59 am
April 18, 2011
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I really dont know, but if Henry did have a brain injury or mental illness, would he still have gone to Hell.
And if he did go to hell then surely so would have Mary and Elizabeth, they also commanded executions.
8:21 am
May 19, 2011
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David said:
Absolutely NOT!! Without getting to deep in religion I can safely say that to believe in Jesus Christ as the son of God gives you the key to Heaven. So Henry is in Heaven and has or will face the only one who can judge him for his actions here on earth. So are all people who believe. King Henry VIII, was a believer there is no doubt and that is all it took to keep him from the fires of Hell. I will say that he has a lot to answer for. It is also probably safe to say that he pretty much broke each and every commandment, but that being said, his belief in the Son of God has saved him from a life with Satin.
Didn't he believe in whoever gave him what he wanted? Switched from Catholicism to Heresy burning Heretics and Catholics at the same time… Personally, I don't think either the Good Lord or the Devil want him!
"A fresh young damsel, who could trip and go"
3:36 pm
June 7, 2010
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E said:
Didn't he believe in whoever gave him what he wanted? Switched from Catholicism to Heresy burning Heretics and Catholics at the same time… Personally, I don't think either the Good Lord or the Devil want him!
Amen to that, E.
"By daily proof you shall find me to be to you both loving and kind" Anne Boleyn
6:19 pm
August 12, 2009
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As a Protestant, I resent being referred to as a heretic. Thank you.
"Don't knock at death's door.
Ring the bell and run. He hates that."
6:30 pm
November 18, 2010
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Impish_Impulse said:
As a Protestant, I resent being referred to as a heretic. Thank you.
As a non-Christian, I don't blame you.
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