Hey Mickey. It's so nice to see a new Anne Boleyn fan around here on the forum. Welcome! 😀 xx

Hi Mickey.  Welcome.  I hope you enjoy this site as much as the rest of us.

“The Virgin & the wh*re”  Which one was which?  Just kidding.  Very interesting theme.  Pick away.

Mickey,

Yes it is chilling to read how Jane seemed to completely enjoy her new-found position as Anne was dying.  It's also true that Anne was perfectly willing to let Katherine rot in oblivion.  However, I cannot bring myself to call either one of these women wh*res.  (Such a hateful word.)  The people who wanted Anne gone are the one's responsible for the label, wh*re, which she has carried on down through the pages of history.  When people can't seem to find a way to explain what or why a woman chooses to face problems the way she does, the word wh*re is always attached to her.  My belief is that Cromwell and the Imperials knew exactly what they were doing when they accused her of those ridiculous crimes.  To this day she is labelled Witch and wh*re.  I certainly hope that in our time, history will be revised and the truth will vindicate Anne. 

Now Jane.  I think Henry wanted meek and mild after the tumultuous period he had with Anne.  He thought he was getting it with plain Jane. Jane had loved Katherine and she was of the faction that hated Anne.  She wanted Mary restored to the Succession and Elizabeth gone from sight.   Although she did it in a quieter, less volatile manner than Anne did, she certainly tried her hand at politics. When she told Henry that he should restore Mary to the Succession, she was told to look to her own children.  When she tried to save the monasteries, she was told by Henry that she should stay out of politics or she'd end up like Anne.  Jane stopped interferring.  Henry, when asked which wife he loved the most, he said Jane.  For me that sums him up.  Jane gave him a son, and she kept her mouth shut, therefore, he loved her best of all.  But Henry was ready to cheat on her a few weeks after they were married.  Where's the love? History has decided that Jane was virginal and good because that's the way Henry wanted her to be known.  But I can't get past how she played Anne's game and held out for marriage knowing full well that Anne had to be gotten rid of before her own marriage could take place.  That kind of behaviour doesn't add up to being quiet, loving, meek and mild.  Once again, history was revised by the men of their times.  Time to fix it.

To sum this up, neither Anne nor Jane were wh*res.  Not in my book anyway.   If by virgins we mean pure and good, neither were virgins either.

Wow.  I'm gonna shut up now.