2:21 pm
June 10, 2010
I have borrowed David starkeys book on Henrys 6 wifes. I am reeding it currently. it seems rather long and most of the book is about Katherine of Aragon and Anne Boleyn. I am just in the beginning of it. Have you all read it. what do you think of it and how does it compare to other books on the same subject ?
9:29 am
June 7, 2010
Starkey's book on the Six Wives is quite long, and he does spend considerable time in Catherine of Aragon and Anne Boleyn. While the book is long, I felt the read was worth it. Starkey also made a television mini-series based on the book, which is wonderful too. As compared to, say either Antonia Fraser's or Alison Weir's books on the Six Wives, I prefer Starkey. Unlike Weir, whose sources and theories are often questionable, Starkey uses his training as an historian to great effect. But, the best book by far on any of the wives in Eric Ives's “The Life and Death of Anne Boleyn.” The best of what Tudor history has to offer. I hope this is helpful, and best of luck with the reading.
"By daily proof you shall find me to be to you both loving and kind" Anne Boleyn
10:16 am
February 24, 2010
12:44 pm
August 22, 2010
DuchessofBrittany said:Starkey's book on the Six Wives is quite long, and he does spend considerable time in Catherine of Aragon and Anne Boleyn. While the book is long, I felt the read was worth it. Starkey also made a television mini-series based on the book, which is wonderful too. As compared to, say either Antonia Fraser's or Alison Weir's books on the Six Wives, I prefer Starkey. Unlike Weir, whose sources and theories are often questionable, Starkey uses his training as an historian to great effect. But, the best book by far on any of the wives in Eric Ives's “The Life and Death of Anne Boleyn.” The best of what Tudor history has to offer. I hope this is helpful, and best of luck with the reading.
While I think Ives's book on Anne is excellent I find Starkey's analysis of Anne's fall more convincing. No way do I believe Cromwell was the prime mover. Cromwell could never have contrived it if he hadn't been convinced that by then Henry wanted to be rid of Anne. Ives's argument that Anne and Cromwell differed over foreign alliances is not really relevant as Anne quickly realised Henry was switching his sympathies to the emperor, and she was intelligent enough to accept that. She wasn't a hindrance to the imperial alliance.
Having said this, this doesn't mean Cromwell wasn't involved at all. By the time he knew Henry hoped to be rid of his second queen he was certainly eager to act accordingly, and, as Starkey writes, to move first. Naturally he was aware Anne may have wanted to get rid of him herself.
10:17 pm
October 31, 2010
I have been trying to read that book for 6 years now! The book is fantastic when it comes to the research and all the details, but it is so heavy (content-wise) that I have to take periodic breaks from it. I haven't even made it to Anne and Henry's marriage yet! I might have to pick it up again.
His book on Elizabeth I is also fantastic and I enjoyed it immensely.
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2:47 pm
August 12, 2009
DuchessofBrittany said:
Starkey also made a television mini-series based on the book, which is wonderful too.
Borrow, rent or buy this if you can. It's very good, although the part depicting Anne Boleyn is ironically the weakest, as he portrays her as rather cold and calculating. But it does a good job of humanizing Jane, Kathryn Howard and Katherine Parr. The Katharine of Aragon arc is well done, taking her from giddy teenager to widow, to pawn caught between Henry VII and her father, to Henry's wife, to silently suffering mother and discarded wife. It does a good job of showing that Henry and Katharine were well-suited and happy for years, before the loss of child after child takes its toll on both of them. I disagree with Starkey's decision to believe KOA lied about her virginity; he seems to believe the worst of some women's motives – and that might say more about him than them.
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Ring the bell and run. He hates that."
5:10 am
June 7, 2010
Impish_Impulse said:
Borrow, rent or buy this if you can. It's very good, although the part depicting Anne Boleyn is ironically the weakest, as he portrays her as rather cold and calculating. But it does a good job of humanizing Jane, Kathryn Howard and Katherine Parr. The Katharine of Aragon arc is well done, taking her from giddy teenager to widow, to pawn caught between Henry VII and her father, to Henry's wife, to silently suffering mother and discarded wife. It does a good job of showing that Henry and Katharine were well-suited and happy for years, before the loss of child after child takes its toll on both of them. I disagree with Starkey's decision to believe KOA lied about her virginity; he seems to believe the worst of some women's motives – and that might say more about him than them.
Impish_Impulse,
I agree that Starkey takes a somewhat hasty view of women's intentions. I agree, it does say more about him than the women he is speaking of, but then again he is David Starkey and he rather likes controversy.
His latest book, Virtuous Prince is excellent. I enjoyed reading about Henry: the young, athletic, Renaissance Prince, and his happier times in youth and marriage to Katherine of Aragon.
Furthemore, since unavaliable in Canada, Starkey's Mind of a Tyrant mini-series can be found on Youtube. It's four parts, running about 50 minutes each. It's quite good, although he does take a rather rough stance against Anne Boleyn, and her role in Henry's transformation from Prince to Tyrant. Some his analysis, though, I do agree. What I enjoyed most was his use of primary sources, and showed them on screen, especially Henry's own personal letters and books, complete with Henry's notations in the margins. Perhaps a romantic take, but when I see the real books, letters, and papers of people from the past, they become real, living people: not figures discussed in books.
"By daily proof you shall find me to be to you both loving and kind" Anne Boleyn
I agree that Starkey's book is well worth a read and you can see episodes from his series on the six wives in littlemisssunnydale's YouTube channel at http://www.youtube.com/user/li…..ssunnydale.
I also have David Loades' Six Wives book and Alison Weir's and both of those are very good too.
Debunking the myths about Anne Boleyn
1:05 am
October 12, 2010
I just got 'Six Wives' and so far I think it is really good (granted, I am only 100 odd pages into it!), and I think that it is great that he has chosen to devote most of the book to Katherine of Aragon and Anne, given that they were by far the two most influential of his wives. I can't wait to see what the rest of the book has in store for me!