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1:23 am
April 9, 2011
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Hello good people, I have created this thread to ask for your help. I’ve recently done some rearranging of my studies bookshelf and when I went to put back my Tudor Biographies I stumbled across a dilemma. A dilemma that I am asking yo to help solve.
What would you say is the best sequence to place my Tudor Books. Now I know some will say do it via Author and then Title like they do in libraries. Yes that would be easier but that doesn’t take into account the crazy way that I appear to like to classify and sequence things (strange coming from a scientist I know). To be perfectly honest, it would seem that the only one who understands where to find a CD or a DVD in my house is me. I personally think it has logic but apparently when I start explaining it to people they just look at me wierd LOL.
Anyway, what I would like to do is to place my Tudor Biographies in sequential order of the personality involved. Now for most part that is easy:
Start with The War Of The Roses move onto Henry VII then Henry VIII followed by his wives in marriage order and finish with James I (after that the sequencing is dead easy Charles I, Cromwell then the remaining Stuart monarchs, then the books on Louis XVI, Marie Antoinette and the kids followed by the 3 books on the Romanov overthrow). So here are my questions finally, where do I place the following books:
Mary Boleyn – does she go after/before Anne or dump her after the wives
Jane Boleyn – does she go after Katherine Howard (best remembered in history with this Queen) or after the Queens after Mary
3 Books on Henry’s kids – they are going after the Queens and after the book Children Of England but do I place them in birth order or reigning order? I’m leading towards reigning order as it helps me to place Jane Grey’s book easily, speaking of which..
The Grey Sisters – does this go after Jane OR should it go between Elizabeth and Mary Queen of Scots? And after Mary Queen Of Scots comes the James I book
So suggestions???
2:10 am
May 7, 2010
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Hahaha my kind of dilemma. I am just the same as you Bill. I do tend to get stuck on things like this. Personally I do as you have said and put books initially in order like a sort of timeline but then within that I just go for good old alphabet to be honest. I find nothing works quicker than that. My ‘rules’ are subject/timeline and then I ‘nest’ books alphabetically I must admit I love nothing more than going to the book I want so do like them to have some order. I could not live in a room without shelves of books to look at, so comforting.
For me Mary Boleyn would be timelined as before Anne and after Katherine which is when she turns up in the story. Jane would be after Anne.
Good luck with it. I can spend hours sorting books ho hum now I am looking at my shelves and twitching a bit………………..
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2:46 am
October 28, 2011
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I have mine sorted by author usually, or by subject. When I get a bigger space to arrange my books I think I might give this a try, because you’ve made me feel terribly boring.
Mary Boleyn – After the wives. I’d go for a Mistress section, you’ll probably get around to Bessie Blount at some point. There’s also a book on Henry VIII’s mistresses by Kelly Hart, I’m sure there would be more to follow.
Jane Boleyn – Jane I would put after Jane Seymour and before or just after Katherine Howard. The book I have on jane Boleyn has a lot of Anne’s reign in it too.
3 Books on Henry’s kids – I would go by reign actually. As Elizabeth was born in the middle but reigned last, and longest.
The Grey Sisters – That’s a bit tricky, I might put it before Elizabeth
12:51 pm
January 3, 2012
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They Grey sisters books, well I would put Jane Grey after Edward, and before Mary as Jane Grey was de facto Queen albeit for just 9 days.
Mary and Katherine Grey I would put in between Elizabeth books, basically because they were more in Elizabeth Reign than anywhere else.Both Katherine and Mary Grey fell fowl of Elizabeth and payed the price, but unlike their sister didn’t die by Elizabeth’s hand.. as Jane did at Mary’s hand.
If you get a chance (Your’ve probably read it already) get a book called 5 Gold Rings I think it’s by Norah Lofts, it’s about Katherine Grey, I loved it.
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1:02 pm
April 9, 2011
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Cheers everybody who has offered thoughts so far.
At the moment I’m leaning towards putting Mary B just before Anne B, this way if I ever print Clare (Louise’s) book on George it can slide in after Anne B
I’m going to put the kids in order of their reigns, so Jane can fall in between Edward and Mary T
I’m going to place The Grey Sisters after Elizabeth.
Still unsure of Jane, she’s either after Anne B or after Katherine H. I suppose if I printed off the George book she would 100% go next to him.
Of course this could all change with another great suggestion.
Olga – There is nothing boring about your method, It makes logical sense and probably allows you and others to find the book quickly as opposed to my crazy methods. For example my Disney animated films are placed according to release dates, I can find them as quick as anything but my friends gets so cranky trying to find the one they want to show their kid when they visit cause it isn’t in alphabetical order.
6:14 pm
February 24, 2010
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Bill,
I try to put my books in a timeline. Henry VII, Henry, his sisters, his mistresses, KOA, Anne, Jane B, Jane Seymour, etc. Since I am running out of space, Jane Grey goes on top of Mary Tudor, The other Grey’s are on top of Elizabeth. Then in another room stacked on the floor are my Stuart books, general history books of England, Scotland, America and Italy. Only I can find those. Everyone else would think it’s a mess, but I know where every book is located. **sigh** I need more space.
I’ll have to print Clare’s book. I never thought of that. When I want to check something in her book, I do it online. Duh!
8:27 pm
January 9, 2010
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I sort my books (vaguely) by the monarch. So i start with Henry VIII, his sisters, books on all 6 wives an then the wives individually. Next come important families of Henrys reign; the Boleyns (and I put my books on Mary Boleyn and Jane Boleyn here) and the Howards. Then its books on Henry’s mistresses before other figures of Henry’s court such as Thomas More and Cromwell. Then I’ve got Alison Weir’s book on Henry’s children, before Lady Jane Grey and her sisters, Mary Tudor, Elizabeth and then Mary Queen of Scots. That makes up my Tudor shelves in the living room; the non-fiction I go to for easy reference.
I keep historical novels and the like in another room altogether – generally I like to keep fiction and non-fiction separate 
11:13 pm
April 9, 2011
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So this morning I went about and re-sequenced the books and I initially placed Jane Boleyn after Katherine H, but it just looked out of placed when earlier in the line are the books on the Boleyn Sisters, so an executive decision was made and Jane is now sitting after Anne.
So now my shelf of historical biographies goes:
Lancaster And York, Princes In The Tower, Henry VII, Six Wives, KoA, Mary B, Anne B (Ives), Anne B (Weir), Jane B, Jane S, AoC, Katherine H, Katherine P, Children Of England, Edward, Jane G, Mary, Elizabeth, Grey Sisters, Traitors In Tower, Tudor For Dummies, Mary, QoS (Fraser), Mary, QoS (Weir), James I, James II (Part 1)
And hopefully when my next batch of books arrive (gone a bit nuts these holidays) they won’t upset the apple cart and make me rethink my order LOL. Especially since I think the shelf will run out of room and I don’t want to place any of these books behind other books, I want them on display LOL
It’s great to read how other people sequence their books and where their books are kept. Also great to read that I’m not the only one who presents the books chronologically. And it’s funny that when I stepped back to look at the History shelf of my book case, I felt really educated and cultured LOL
I’ve also enjoyed reading the description of books piled up on floors. I’ve got to try to avoid doing that cause once I have stuff lying on the floor other stuff ends up being ‘filed’ on the floor and I end up looking like a hoarder
1:27 am
May 16, 2011
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I’d sort them between your favorites, okay ones, then least favorites. Or I just put my least favorites one’s behind all of them.
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2:41 am
November 18, 2010
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Mine are in piles all over the house as I don’t have enough bookshelves ATM….when/if we finish the basement, there’s going to be a study for D’Hoffryn and a library cum study for me with 3 wall-to-celing bookshelves….just need the money to do it properly….
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5:05 am
October 28, 2011
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Bill1978 said
Olga – There is nothing boring about your method, It makes logical sense and probably allows you and others to find the book quickly as opposed to my crazy methods. For example my Disney animated films are placed according to release dates, I can find them as quick as anything but my friends gets so cranky trying to find the one they want to show their kid when they visit cause it isn’t in alphabetical order.
No I think your method makes perfect sense. Admittedly we’re “between houses” at the moment and my books are a bit of a mess, they’re all in genre but mainly stacked according to where I can squeeze them in on the shelf. I think when I have the space I’ll set them out in a similar way to yours. Although I’m still deciding whether I want to start collecting everything in hardcover or just replace the second-hand paperbacks I’ve been buying with new paperbacks. Hardcovers take up a lot of space.
9:50 am
April 9, 2011
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I admit that I like to have the styles of books in the same format. For example when I started reading the Harry Potter series, I first bought a paperback, by the time I caught up with the series I would wait patiently until the paperback edition was released. Except for the final one, I had to know right away. But I ended up giving that one to the school library when done and purchased the paperback when it was finally released to add to my collection.
I did the same thing with Matthew Reilly’s Five Greatest Warriors I need to know how the cliffhanger ended and couldn’t wait for the paperback. Once again the hardcover was given to the school library and the paperback is in my collection.
I bought Ives’ book on Jane Grey in hardcover but the other day I ordered the paperback version to replace it in my collection so it would ‘fit in’ better. I plan on donating his book to the school again which would make it their first Tudor biography sitting in there, so who know maybe someone will be educated or do a history assignment on her because of me.
Only problem know is that the books on James II I have ordered only come in hardcover so they are going to stick out like a sore thuumb, but I think I can live with that as I know I don’t have an alternate option.
11:46 am
October 28, 2011
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Most book collectors are like that though.
I like collecting hardcovers but I’ve found some of the history ones too heavy to read while sitting (I have some mild RSI) I had to buy Starkey’s Six Wives in paperback. I can live with mixed hardcovers and paperbacks in a general history collection, but yes in a series I prefer them to be all the same format. I have a rather enormous Harry Potter collection myself
I was telling may partner of my plans to replace all my second-hand copies with new ones (or better copies at least) eventually and he just laughed at me. He borrowed a book I was going to read and rolled the spine, I sulked for days. I’ve currently got it sandwiched between a bunch of hardcovers to straighten it out
10:54 pm
November 18, 2010
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Bill1978 said
Only problem know is that the books on James II I have ordered only come in hardcover so they are going to stick out like a sore thuumb, but I think I can live with that as I know I don’t have an alternate option.
Now that’s a First World Problem…LOL!
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