9:39 pm
November 18, 2010
It's always bunnies.
9:43 pm
May 7, 2010
I looked at this earlier. It is quite a pretty site. I just don’t feel any attraction to Victoria. I wish I could but really they all leave me cold from around the time of James I and VI. It is interesting though to see the early photographs.
Let us show them that they are hares and foxes trying to rule over dogs and wolves - Boudica addressing the tribes Circa AD60
3:09 am
November 18, 2010
3:27 am
May 16, 2011
Only particular royalty interests me, Tudor era, Cleopatra and Achilles and Alexander the Great etc etc and I really like our current royal family (Elizabeth II, William, Kate). I never got into Victoria but that’s just me but I did like the movie ‘Young Victoria’ with Emily Blunt.
• Grumble all you like, this is how it’s going to be.
12:27 pm
April 9, 2011
I think the main problem for Victoria is that she reigned for a very long time and in an era where you have reliable press documents, photos, films. There is no mystery about her, cause there is so much documentation on her. And rather than discussing the personality you end up focussing on the society of her era as its uch easier. Plus bless her soul people seem to just remember her as the grandmother of Europe, responsible for introduing haemophilia into European royalty and mourning the death of her husband.
No while a long reign doesn’t mean the personality gets lost in the era, Victoria’s story is very different to someone like Elizabeth I. Liz I has that dramatic story of her mother’s life, the change in church, surviving her sister’s reign and eventually succeeding to the throne AND not producing an heir and openly defying men in an era where women were meant to be subservient.
Victoria popped out babies like there was no tomorrow, she got the throne with relative ease. There really is no mystery or scandal about Victoria to discuss. The only one that rears its head is her relationship with Mr Brown but even that ends up leaning towards romantic fiction writers, as does her deep love for Albert. Oh and then there is the theory her son was Jack The Ripper.
I fear Elizabeth II may suffer the same fate due to her long reign, it will e more about the events that occurred in her life than what she achieved during her reign. And plus I think the story of Diana and Charles will tend to be focussed on anything written about Liz II
I loved Young Victoria and thought it was a wonderful film and I would probably like to know more about the young Victoria but it seems to me history is all about writing about Victoria from Albert’s death onwards. Maybe if it was Victoria died instead of Albert I would find her more interesting…oh that’s such a terrible thought. Sorry.
7:49 pm
January 3, 2012
Actually Bill. Victoria was known to be very tempestious in temperment, and she and Albert used to have some real humdingers of rows. In fact at times they were so heated that Albert used to remind Victoria when she was throwing her dummy out of her pram, that she was behaving just like her grandfather(George 3rd) and she was becomming an embarrassment. There was also a sort of scandal in the first few years of her marriage too. As one of her ladies appeared to be heavily pregnant, although the lady was unmarried, of course she was sent from court in disgrace, and of course shunned by all those who were her freinds. Shortly after the poor young lady died, and it was then discovered that she wasn’t pregnant at all and this had in fact got a large cancerous growth in her womb that had caused her death. Because of the way that Victoria literely tossed this poor young lady out on her arse, the people were very sympathic towards her and for a while Victoria’s popularity suffered, and she was hissed and booed at when she went out in public. The “We are not amused” saying was alledgely never said by the way..
Victoria didn’t do a lot for the country, as Monarch’s from George the 1st were and still are just figureheads of Britain, the actual brew ha ha of running the country is carried out by Parliament. But Victoria did bring hope to the people and after the general madness and mayhem of George 3th, 4th, and William, Victoria was a breath of fresh air to the people. She ruled her people with love as did Lizzy 1st, and was popular with people.
When she died in 1901 she was much mourned by the people, many of whom had only known her to be Queen. I think Victoria was perhaps more iconic than anything else.
As for her relationship with John Brown I don’t think there was anything improper in their relationship. Victoria was devestated when Albert died, and I think she must have fell into a deep depression, those around her just really let her get on with it, John Brown on the other hand shook her out of it and gave her the kick up her backside that she needed to pull herself together and except that Albert was dead. Although as we know she continued right up until her own death to lay out fresh clothing etc every day for Albert. That may sound a crazy thing to do, but it was her way of coping, and everybody copes with the death of a loved one in a different. It was said that when she was buried at Frogmore beside Albert she had a locket placed in her hands with a lock of John Brown’s hair.
Young Victoria was a good film, but in my eyes the best film featuring Victoria is Sixty Glorious Years, starring Anna Neagle as Victoria and Anton Rogers as Albert.
Semper Fidelis, quod sum quod
9:18 am
January 17, 2011