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What Are We All Reading?
April 3, 2011
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MegC said:

LOVE Ghosthunters and Ghosthunters International!!  I saw the episode where they went to Hellfire Caves and I vaguely remember them taking a JtR tour, and I think it was with the same guy who lead the tour when I took it in 2005ish.  

Very interesting how different that end of London is now compared to how it was during JtR's time.  I know that our tourguide pointed out the Prostitute's Church when I took the tour.  Basically, loitering wasn't allowed, so they would walk around the block, meet their johns on the backside if they had one, walk just fast enough on the front side to not be caught for loitering and possibly pick up another customer, and then do it all again.

I wouldn't want to be a prostitute during the best of times, but being one back then was just gross and rough.  

Sadly, the original ST was well after my time (I was born in 1981), but remain to this day a huge TNG and after fan.  I even liked Enterprise.

The worst boards I've ever been on have been Mommy boards.  People always wanting to, essentially, debate who's the better mom.  Who cares????  It was jusy unnecessarily maddening. 


Oh I remember our guide telling us about how the prostitutes dd their work around the church. Wow. And you're right about gross and rough.

I haven't been a Star Trek “fan-fan” for years, but I did enjoy TNG too. And I remember Patrick Stewart when he played the Roman Sejanus on my all-time favorite miniseries I, Claudius! (He was trying to overthrow the Emperor Tiberius). Oh and I just remembered –he played Henry Grey, Lady Jane's father, didn't he? Wonderful actor.

Don't have kids so have never been on a Mommy board, but some of the others I've been on have been just as insane I'm sure.

On that note ladies, gotta run. I'm due to leave for work soon. It's 79 degrees in Louisville right this second and my allergies are trying to go into full-blown assault!! LOL  

Henry: Mistress Anne, will you teach the king of England how they dance in the French court?
Anne: There is nothing that France can teach England, your majesty.
King Henry VIII: Well said. Well said.
– Anne of the Thousand Days (1969)

April 3, 2011
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Anyanka said:


most boards I'm on have a general talk thread. This thread seems to fulfill that need.

 

I've been on “Hive-Mind” boards before….goodness how some of those people survive in the real world escapes me.

My prefered style of board is where the admin/mods are part of the community, like this one. I hate ones where you can't speak out and ones where the admin is stilll on “Newbie” status and you only see them when posts are reported due to “cat-fights” or spam.

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Oh I know what you mean about “Hive-Mind” boards. It's scary that nothing goes beyond the group's “theme” — some are positively eaten up by it and it doesn't seem healthy.

I was in one group related to the British Royal Navy and it had gained a lot of members thanks to Russell Crowe's movie Master and Commander and many (myself included) becoming familiar with the author of the book series on which the film was based (Patrick O'Brien). The group started out fine, but then quickly went South. The administrator (and I was never sure what type of job he had but it took him away for very long periods of time) showed up occasionally, and would then disappear for literally months at a time, and there was no co-moderator to keep an eye on things, although a number of us that had been in the group for a while offered to help out. Membership was so open that anybody and everybody could join up — and before we knew it, we were getting spammed every day and a few “members” were leaving soft p*rn in the photo section. Real members started leaving as we couldn't have any minor discussions on our subject without getting spammed back. I finally gave up and left. Someone contacted me about a year later and said the owner finally returned — for a while, then vanished back into his black hole. I have no idea if the group still exists or not! LOL 


I'm glad I missed that one.

I was briefly on a  board based around the naval battles of the Napoleonic wars and at least once a day I was “requested ” to show photographic proof I was female in the form of a topless photo…yeah! I was so gonna do that!

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April 3, 2011
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Sharon said:


I must be the only one here who has never been to England.  Darn it.

I vaguely remember that ST episode.  Scotty was my favorite, too.  (Aside from Kirk.)  Interesting theory though.  BTW Did you see the 2009 ST movie with Chris Pine as Kirk?  I thought it was excellent and cannot wait to see the next one. 

This is the only forum I have ever been on.  I've heard many people say that other forums can be rude.  I seem to have picked the best one. I do enjoy our discussions.  We all have such varied interests, with varying opinions, and yet we always find common ground.  Like Gerard Butler, Russell Crowe, Errol Flynn, etc.  Wink


You'll get there soon I'm sure.

 

I haven't yet seen the 2009 reboot of Star Trek…but I've been told it's good. Must pick it up next time DH is away….

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April 3, 2011
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Oh my mom told me about the one with the Hellfire Caves.

You're right about all the theories. Once we started talking about the Ripper, I went online and was checking out the information on the Prince; I didn't realize that the controversy started with a so-called factual book in the 1970's or 80's and then it all hit the fan, from supposed documentaries to fiction like From Hell and Murder by Decree. And seems the Prince wasn't even in London during a couple of the murders. Reminded me of Cromwell's allegations of where Anne supposedly committed adultery when the facts showed she was actually in other locations. I honestly don't know. I don't like seeing people slandered with minor things, let alone something as major as being Jack the Ripper. And while it doesn't sound like Prince Eddie was an angel, I don't know if he was the Ripper (sounds like some of the Prince Eddie hate began after his death and Queen Victoria possibly had some negative comments about her grandson as well).
 

I think I've heard of most of the suspects you mentioned. And sadly, the Ripper theories seem as plentiful as the JFK assassination ones.


Alan Moore seems to have being going down hill since I stopped buying his comics..From Hell  from strong drugs methinks…

His early stuff, like V for Vendetta, was good and I loved the DC stuff when he brought back the Phantom Stranger and created John Constantine even though he totally messed up a lot of the North-Eastern England backgrounds in Hellblazer..

 

His take on Batman was good and The Watchmen redefined looking at superheroes. Shame the movie sucked big time…

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TinaII2None said:

MegC said:

Sadly, the original ST was well after my time (I was born in 1981), but remain to this day a huge TNG and after fan.  I even liked Enterprise.

 The worst boards I've ever been on have been Mommy boards.  People always wanting to, essentially, debate who's the better mom.  Who cares????  It was jusy unnecessarily maddening. 


I haven't been a Star Trek “fan-fan” for years, but I did enjoy TNG too. And I remember Patrick Stewart when he played the Roman Sejanus on my all-time favorite miniseries I, Claudius! (He was trying to overthrow the Emperor Tiberius). Oh and I just remembered –he played Henry Grey, Lady Jane's father, didn't he? Wonderful actor.


@Meg…parenting boards are full of insecure people who have to put other parents down to justify thier own decisions because I have no other explaination for thier venom….

gosh…born in 1981…i'm old enough to be your mother…

 

@Tina I was lent I, Claudius by my Latin teacher to help me with my Roman history…should have given them back in the past 25 years..

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April 6, 2011
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25 years!  Doesn't that mean they're yours now, he he!

I've just started 'Dark Fire', the second of C J Sansoms books.  I think I'm actually liking this one better than the last and I absolutely loved that Laugh

April 6, 2011
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I think you will, Bella. I've just started Heartstone – #5.

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          Ring the bell and run. He hates that."    

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Reading Henry, Virtuous Prince, by David Starkey.

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I really enjoyed 'Virtuous Prince' – glimpses of Henry before he became king are always fascinating.  I just seems like I've been waiting years for the follow-up….

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Sharon said:

Reading Henry, Virtuous Prince, by David Starkey.


I think I'll add that one to my list; sounds like it might be good.

I got my copy of Norton's Margaret Beaufort: Mother of the Tudor Dynasty the other day, along with the Henry VIII love letters. I'm going to start the Norton book during my commute tonight.

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Anne: There is nothing that France can teach England, your majesty.
King Henry VIII: Well said. Well said.
– Anne of the Thousand Days (1969)

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TinaII2None said:

Sharon said:

Reading Henry, Virtuous Prince, by David Starkey.


I think I'll add that one to my list; sounds like it might be good.
I got my copy of Norton's Margaret Beaufort: Mother of the Tudor Dynasty the other day, along with the Henry VIII love letters. I'm going to start the Norton book during my commute tonight.


I'd be interested to hear your comments on the love letters.  I thought in the beginning Henry was being a bit of a bully.

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Bella44 said:

I really enjoyed 'Virtuous Prince' – glimpses of Henry before he became king are always fascinating.  I just seems like I've been waiting years for the follow-up….


 I have just started it.  Henry is only three and quite precocious. He seems to impress everyone at this age.  I'm having trouble believing this charming child is the same boy who turns into the Henry of later years.  I am already looking forward to the second book.  I'll be interested to see how Starkey explains this transformation.

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Sharon said:


I'd be interested to hear your comments on the love letters.  I thought in the beginning Henry was being a bit of a bully.


It's not a very big book — I may go ahead and start it first. But I'll definitely let you know what I think. Not surprising if he does come off as a bully at first. I mean…what woman would be able to resist him — he's Henry VIII after all *rolling eyes* Laugh

Henry: Mistress Anne, will you teach the king of England how they dance in the French court?
Anne: There is nothing that France can teach England, your majesty.
King Henry VIII: Well said. Well said.
– Anne of the Thousand Days (1969)

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Anyanka said:

 

@Tina I was lent I, Claudius by my Latin teacher to help me with my Roman history…should have given them back in the past 25 years..


I saw that (I think) Bella44 was teasing you that they should be yours in all this time. Yeah LOL She's right Laugh Seriously, I lent someone my copies of Jane Eyre and Wuthering Heights back around 1974…and never saw them again. LOL Then I had an English teacher borrow my paperback copy of Helter Skelter back around 1975 — and I never saw it again. But of all the borrowing/lending experiences I ever had, the two worst were:

1) My sisters sneaked off my copy of Terminator 2 BUT LEFT THE BOX ON MY VIDEO SHELF SO THAT I'D THINK THE MOVIE WAS STILL THERE! I didn't find out differently until I went to watch it and went “What the heck…?” Never saw the tape again. (I started threatening to make my own “library cards” so that I could keep track.

2) I lent a friend my Fargo DVD…and during a domestic violence incident with her boyfriend, she defended herself by breaking it over his head….She did get me another copy though (as well as lent me her prized DVD set of the most recent Tom Jones miniseries) and she was VERY embarrassed by the whole thing. I figure in that case, her use of Fargo was fine. I'm thankful she didn't have a wood chipper (and if you've seen the movie you KNOW what I mean).

 

Henry: Mistress Anne, will you teach the king of England how they dance in the French court?
Anne: There is nothing that France can teach England, your majesty.
King Henry VIII: Well said. Well said.
– Anne of the Thousand Days (1969)

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I am reading City of Fallen Angels by Cassandra Clare.  It's the newest in her Mortal Instruments series.  Totally a YA book, but I started the series and it's surprisingly good so now I have to finish it.  At least Cassandra Clare knows how to craft a good story even if I object to the relationship between the hero and heroine of the book.

I read a lot of young-adult…try to keep up with what my students read.  Although I refuse to read Nicholas Sparks.  His books make me gag.  At least throw in some supernatural to keep it interesting.

But I've figured out why teenage girls are incapable of having a realistic relationship (besides the fact that they're teenage girls).  In a lot of these books (Twilight, Mortal Instruments, Infernal Devices, Vampire Diaries, etc.) the hero is some guy with weird issues who's not bad per se, just strange.  And, inevitably, he falls in love with this girl who is perfect (literally, the heroine always seems to be a girl who is SOOOOO good.  The worst thing the author says about her, for example, is that she's too honest or something equally ridiculous).  But he's afraid that he'll taint her if they're together so he spends 3/4 of the series/book trying to NOT be with her, only to finally succumb.  And the girl, because she's perfect, is able to change the hero and help him through his issues.  It's so….idealized.  Who can live up to those kind of expectations???

I say give me Scarlett and Rhett any day.

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TinaII2None said:

Anyanka said:

 

@Tina I was lent I, Claudius by my Latin teacher to help me with my Roman history…should have given them back in the past 25 years..


I saw that (I think) Bella44 was teasing you that they should be yours in all this time. Yeah LOL She's right Laugh Seriously, I lent someone my copies of Jane Eyre and Wuthering Heights back around 1974…and never saw them again. LOL Then I had an English teacher borrow my paperback copy of Helter Skelter back around 1975 — and I never saw it again. But of all the borrowing/lending experiences I ever had, the two worst were:
 

1) My sisters sneaked off my copy of Terminator 2 BUT LEFT THE BOX ON MY VIDEO SHELF SO THAT I'D THINK THE MOVIE WAS STILL THERE! I didn't find out differently until I went to watch it and went “What the heck…?” Never saw the tape again. (I started threatening to make my own “library cards” so that I could keep track.

2) I lent a friend my Fargo DVD…and during a domestic violence incident with her boyfriend, she defended herself by breaking it over his head….She did get me another copy though (as well as lent me her prized DVD set of the most recent Tom Jones miniseries) and she was VERY embarrassed by the whole thing. I figure in that case, her use of Fargo was fine. I'm thankful she didn't have a wood chipper (and if you've seen the movie you KNOW what I mean).

 


I had left school when he lent me the books . He was teaching Roman history for adult learning for pleasure.

 

And today , I read his obitury…

 

Ah! yes….I remember the wood chipper.

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MegC said:

I am reading City of Fallen Angels by Cassandra Clare.  It's the newest in her Mortal Instruments series.  Totally a YA book, but I started the series and it's surprisingly good so now I have to finish it.  At least Cassandra Clare knows how to craft a good story even if I object to the relationship between the hero and heroine of the book.

I read a lot of young-adult…try to keep up with what my students read.  Although I refuse to read Nicholas Sparks.  His books make me gag.  At least throw in some supernatural to keep it interesting.

But I've figured out why teenage girls are incapable of having a realistic relationship (besides the fact that they're teenage girls).  In a lot of these books (Twilight, Mortal Instruments, Infernal Devices, Vampire Diaries, etc.) the hero is some guy with weird issues who's not bad per se, just strange.  And, inevitably, he falls in love with this girl who is perfect (literally, the heroine always seems to be a girl who is SOOOOO good.  The worst thing the author says about her, for example, is that she's too honest or something equally ridiculous).  But he's afraid that he'll taint her if they're together so he spends 3/4 of the series/book trying to NOT be with her, only to finally succumb.  And the girl, because she's perfect, is able to change the hero and help him through his issues.  It's so….idealized.  Who can live up to those kind of expectations???

I say give me Scarlett and Rhett any day.


I've read the Wiki book reports for Mr sparks and I'm not overly impressed. Though a lots of folks on Amazon seem to “like” him…

 

From what I've seen of YA books recently, there's a lot of Mary-Sue heroines and easily redeemable “bad-boyz” …shudder!

 

At least I knew where I stood with Darth Vader….

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I think you will, Bella. I've just started Heartstone – #5.


I've nearly finished it, should've been doing housework today (it's my day off) but I started reading it over breakfast and couldn't put it down!

I read a lot of YA too (hey, I'm not ashamed to say I read below my age group!) and a lot of the heroines are very Mary Sue-ish. Especially in the supernatural genre.  I used to think it was all Stephanie Meyers' fault for creating such a bland, passive, indecisive and all-round blah character in Bella Swan, but then I realised she actually got teenage girls pretty darn well spot-on!!!!!!!!  Stay away from the supernatural in YA and there's actually a lot of good literature in the genre.

And Anyanka, I used to think I knew where I stood with Darth Vader too but then the prequels came out…. and it took a helluva lot of brain bleach before I could watch Star Wars again! 

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The prequels are the very reason I gave up on Star Wars altogether.

Of course, if they mess around with Star Trek too much now that they've got the reboot started, I might just have to give up on that, too.  I swear, if they try to make Romulans likeable, I'll have to throw something at the TV.

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