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What Are We All Reading?
April 17, 2011
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TinaII2None said:

Queen Hereafter: A Novel of Margaret of Scotland by Susan Fraser King


Tina, I've read Queen Hereafter. I really liked it and thought it was better than Lady Macbeth. I read Lady Macbeth first, but it is not a necessity. Lady Macbeth does appear in Queen Hereafter, but her role is well explained. I enjoyed reading another version other than Shakespeare. Lady Macbeth is quite enduring, yet she is strong and capable who fights for her rights.

Queen Margaret of Scotland was an amazing woman, and King does a great job showing her as a young Saxon woman, coming to a court and country so alien to her culture, and how she endures herself to the Scottish people.

At Edinburgh Castle, Queen Margaret's Chapel is the oldest building in the compound. It's both calming and has a certain strength about it. I imagine much like the lady herself.

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April 17, 2011
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TinaII2None said:

Queen Hereafter: A Novel of Margaret of Scotland by Susan Fraser King

 

 


Tina, I've read Queen Hereafter. I really liked it and thought it was better than Lady Macbeth. I read Lady Macbeth first, but it is not a necessity. Lady Macbeth does appear in Queen Hereafter, but her role is well explained. I enjoyed reading another version other than Shakespeare. Lady Macbeth is quite enduring, yet she is strong and capable who fights for her rights.
Queen Margaret of Scotland was an amazing woman, and King does a great job showing her as a young Saxon woman, coming to a court and country so alien to her culture, and how she endures herself to the Scottish people.

At Edinburgh Castle, Queen Margaret's Chapel is the oldest building in the compound. It's both calming and has a certain strength about it. I imagine much like the lady herself.


Thanks for the info. I think that after I finish Gone with the Wind and Norton's book on Margaret Beaufort (I'm only one chapter in and what a background SHE had), I'll take on Queen Hereafter. I wasn't all that familiar with Queen Margaret except to see her name mentioned in some other sources, so that was why the novel sounded so interesting. And as I said to Sharon, reading some other story with Lady Macbeth will be a nice change after the Shakespeare “hit job” (so to speak).

I'll be eligible to retire in about 2 more years (this year I celebrate my silver anniversary with our police department). I intend to celebrate by returning to England…but this time I want to add Scotland and Wales to the visit. I'll have to remember to visit Margaret's Chapel. Sometimes when you're rushing about in the midst of touring, you need those moments of peace and calm. I've found it before at the chapel of Sudeley Castle, during a quiet Saturday morning at St. Paul's, and at the chapel of Hampton Court. Here's hoping I find it again when I visit Edinburgh Castle. 

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April 18, 2011
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@ Tina:  That book on Lincoln's corpse sounds really interesting!  Lincoln's death single-handedly changed the way morticians approached embalming in the U.S., and apparently the embalming job done on him was just amazing (of course, his train stopped at a ton of different places before he arrived at his burial site).  I was watching a documentary about how some counterfeiters had attempted to steal Lincoln's body, and apparently before his casket was finally sunk a gazillion feet underground and encased in concrete, they opened the casket one last time to ensure that his body was still present (and this was in the early 1900s probably) and they said that it looked like he had JUST died.  You could even still see the bruises on his skin from where all the bones in his face were shattered.  So that's a pretty impressive embalming job if it was still holding up 40+ years after his death.

I've started re-reading GWTW.  Scarlett just arrived in ATL and is attending THE BAZAAR 😀  How scandalous!!  I also started reading Age of Innocence by Edith Wharton yesterday.  It's a spare book I've had sitting around on my Kindle for a little while and I finally decided “Meh, why not?”.  It's surprisingly good and well-written (I've never read Wharton before so I had no idea what to expect) so far, but I haven't gotten far enough into it yet to really comment on the plot.  Both books might be slow-going because which one I read is dependent on my location in the house.  GWTW is downstairs and Age of Innocence is upstairs.

In a somewhat un-related note, I caught the end of Gangs of New York this morning when Thing 2 woke up crazy early to eat (um…5:30).  Anyway, I totally didn't realize it but it is set in 1862/63 and coincides with the New York City draft riots over the Civil War which I had never heard of before seeing the movie.  Anyway, the riots occurred a couple of weeks after Gettysburg which probably explains why it took 3 days to suppress the rioting.  

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April 18, 2011
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@ Tina:  That book on Lincoln's corpse sounds really interesting!  Lincoln's death single-handedly changed the way morticians approached embalming in the U.S., and apparently the embalming job done on him was just amazing (of course, his train stopped at a ton of different places before he arrived at his burial site).  I was watching a documentary about how some counterfeiters had attempted to steal Lincoln's body, and apparently before his casket was finally sunk a gazillion feet underground and encased in concrete, they opened the casket one last time to ensure that his body was still present (and this was in the early 1900s probably) and they said that it looked like he had JUST died.  You could even still see the bruises on his skin from where all the bones in his face were shattered.  So that's a pretty impressive embalming job if it was still holding up 40+ years after his death.

I've started re-reading GWTW.  Scarlett just arrived in ATL and is attending THE BAZAAR 😀  How scandalous!!  I also started reading Age of Innocence by Edith Wharton yesterday.  It's a spare book I've had sitting around on my Kindle for a little while and I finally decided “Meh, why not?”.  It's surprisingly good and well-written (I've never read Wharton before so I had no idea what to expect) so far, but I haven't gotten far enough into it yet to really comment on the plot.  Both books might be slow-going because which one I read is dependent on my location in the house.  GWTW is downstairs and Age of Innocence is upstairs.

In a somewhat un-related note, I caught the end of Gangs of New York this morning when Thing 2 woke up crazy early to eat (um…5:30).  Anyway, I totally didn't realize it but it is set in 1862/63 and coincides with the New York City draft riots over the Civil War which I had never heard of before seeing the movie.  Anyway, the riots occurred a couple of weeks after Gettysburg which probably explains why it took 3 days to suppress the rioting.  


I heard an interview with Mr. Swanson, and since I had enjoyed his Manhunt I thought I might tackle this more recent one now (well, soon LOL). I've heard that there was an attempt to steal Lincoln's body, but the story you told was very interesting and I'm hoping Swanson discusses it in his book. I know that he definitely covers the train trip from Washington to Springfield.

Well, Gone with the Wind arrived on Friday but Amazon's new delivery service didn't advise me until today. I walked over to my apartment complex office to get the box so I am now the proud owner of 1) a more modern lettuce crisper; 2) a salad spinner, and 3) a paperback copy of GWTW (Yay!) So it's going in my tote bag tonight so I can start reading it on my way to work…although I almost hate putting aside Norton's Margaret Beaufort autobiography at this time; it's getting incredibly good. I confess that I'm learning a good deal about Margaret, particularly as a young woman. She feels more real to me than the fictional version does in those snippets I read in what-her-face's Red Queen novel. To see a girl of 13 or 14 grow up so quickly. I know “children” at that time did, but she had to manage it with such rapidity in order to protect both her and her son. And I was delighted to read that Margaret may have had a happy third marriage with Stafford. I had wondered if she ever did, have a happy marriage I mean.

I might read The Age of Innocence someday. I don't remember reading Wharton in school, and I know I haven't seen I became an adult. That age she portrayed in her book — there are two Kentucky sisters buried in our Cave Hill Cemetery and both of them married into the European aristocracy during the time frame Wharton covers. Had to look them both up on Cave Hill's site, but but they were “Mary Guendaline (also spelled Gwendoline) Byrd Caldwell, Marquise Des Monstiers Merinville and Mary Elizabeth Breckenridge Caldwell, the Baroness Von Zedtwitz.” I wish I knew more about them and how all this came about, but whenever I see The Age of Innocence, House of MirthThe Buccaneers or The Wings of the Dove I think of them. 

Oh I had forgotten about the time frame for Gangs of New York, although I remember my mother telling me what it was about and when it took place. I remember hearing about the riots too.  

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April 21, 2011
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I finished Rory Clements Martyr: An Elizabethan Thriller last night. It was a great read. I loved that it was set in the 1570's. Some historical characters make apperances (Walsingham, Francis Drake, for example) and revolves around a murder of a Howard. The main character is John Shakespeare, a Walsingham man, who investigates the murder and finds himself personally involved.

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April 21, 2011
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That's interesting, DOB, I answered a query a little while back on the Elizabeth files by someone asking if William Shakespeare's father had been a spy for Walsingham, as his father was called John I wonder if he assumed that from reading this book?

I am currently reading “Sharpe's Waterloo” by Bernard Cornwell, I have read the others in the Sharpe series but haven't got round to this one until now. I find Cornwell a very good historical novelist (as in the 3 “Grail Quest” novels), whose research and historical accuracy is in stark contrast to someone else I could mention ( Shh, you know who!).

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Does anyone know the name of the author who writes about sailing ships in the Sharpe mould? I read one many years ago and enjoyed it.

 

oh! you mean she-who-shall-not-be named!

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“Green Darkness” by Anya Seton

Has anyone read this? It's a tale of reincarnation and set in 1552 and 1968….I've literally JUST started this and as I quickly picked this up at the library whilst my daughter ordered a book I really don't know anything about it, lol! Would love to know some views on it Smile

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Sophie1536 said:

“Green Darkness” by Anya Seton

Has anyone read this? It's a tale of reincarnation and set in 1552 and 1968….I've literally JUST started this and as I quickly picked this up at the library whilst my daughter ordered a book I really don't know anything about it, lol! Would love to know some views on it Smile


Sophie, I read Green Darkness a few years ago. While it is nowhere near as good as Katherine, I did enjoy it. I liked the whole time travel idea. I do love most books set in Tudor England. I cannot remember a lot about the story line, but Seton is a great writer. Let me know what you think about the novel. Happy reading!

I also just finished reading Elizabeth Norton's Jane Seymour: Henry VIII”s True Love. I can't say I loved it. It was an okay read, with too many “what ifs” and speculations. I learned a few new things about Jane, but nothing to the extent I had hoped. I much preferred Starkey's take on her life.

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April 22, 2011
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Anyanka said:

Does anyone know the name of the author who writes about sailing ships in the Sharpe mould? I read one many years ago and enjoyed it.

 

oh! you mean she-who-shall-not-be named!


Don't know if anyone has answered you yet but that would be Patrick O'Brien who created the wonderful characters Captain Jack Aubrey and his ship's surgeon/spymaster Stephen Maturin. It's a twenty book series; the 21st was not completed due to O'Brien's death but was released a few years ago.

And my favorite movie of all time Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World starring Russell Crowe and Paul Bettany and directed by Peter Weir combines several of the books.

She-Who-Shall-Not-Be-Named….A force that would make Voldemort run for the hills.Laugh

Henry: Mistress Anne, will you teach the king of England how they dance in the French court?
Anne: There is nothing that France can teach England, your majesty.
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April 22, 2011
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DuchessofBrittany said:

Sophie1536 said:

“Green Darkness” by Anya Seton

Has anyone read this? It's a tale of reincarnation and set in 1552 and 1968….I've literally JUST started this and as I quickly picked this up at the library whilst my daughter ordered a book I really don't know anything about it, lol! Would love to know some views on it Smile


Sophie, I read Green Darkness a few years ago. While it is nowhere near as good as Katherine, I did enjoy it. I liked the whole time travel idea. I do love most books set in Tudor England. I cannot remember a lot about the story line, but Seton is a great writer. Let me know what you think about the novel. Happy reading!

I also just finished reading Elizabeth Norton's Jane Seymour: Henry VIII”s True Love. I can't say I loved it. It was an okay read, with too many “what ifs” and speculations. I learned a few new things about Jane, but nothing to the extent I had hoped. I much preferred Starkey's take on her life.

@Sophie1536:  I usually love Tudor England set books too, although I read a time travel/reincarnation/romance by Jude Devereaux years and years ago — at least I think it was Jude Devereaux. If one of the characters hadn't occasionally mentioned something that sounded Elizabethan, and then one of the evil females LOL told our hero something to the effect that she would take him to the court of Elizabeth as the Queen loved to be surrounded by handsome intelligent men.  I don't remember much else about the book so it must not have overly impressed me.

@Duchess: I really do need to read something by Seton. All of you have talked about how wonderful Katherine is so if it's not on my Amazon list, it will be now. (And why is the one edition I'm looking at have the name of She-Who-Shall-Not-Be-Named attached to Ms. Seton's?)

You also mentioned Elizabeth Norton's book on Jane Seymour. I've enjoyed her bio on Margaret Beaufort so far — had no idea about some of the woman's life. Jane is so far down my interest list as far as Henry's wives, but it'd be nice to know what made her tick. (Which was why I enjoyed Claire's commentary on the wives). What did Starkey say about Jane?

Henry: Mistress Anne, will you teach the king of England how they dance in the French court?
Anne: There is nothing that France can teach England, your majesty.
King Henry VIII: Well said. Well said.
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It's been a while since I've read Starkey's book on the wives but from what I remember his was the most complete portrayal of Jane.  I've read the Elizabeth Norton bio on her which i quite enjoyed, nothing amazingly new about Jane but the parts about her family are interesting.

I'm reading Karen Lindsey's take on the wives – 'Divorced, Beheaded, Survived'.  Jane rather comes off as a bit of non-entity in this one. Not much time spent on her at all!  Has anyone else read it?

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@Duchess: I really do need to read something by Seton. All of you have talked about how wonderful Katherine is so if it's not on my Amazon list, it will be now. (And why is the one edition I'm looking at have the name of She-Who-Shall-Not-Be-Named attached to Ms. Seton's?)

You also mentioned Elizabeth Norton's book on Jane Seymour. I've enjoyed her bio on Margaret Beaufort so far — had no idea about some of the woman's life. Jane is so far down my interest list as far as Henry's wives, but it'd be nice to know what made her tick. (Which was why I enjoyed Claire's commentary on the wives). What did Starkey say about Jane?


I believe that She-Who-Shall-Not-Be-Named wrote a foreward to some editions of Anya Seton's novels. My edition of Katherine does not, but I suspect someone just wanted her name attached to one of the greatest historical fiction writers. TOBG could and will never compete with Katherine. Just saying…

I hope to read Norton's book on Margaret Beaufort at some point. So many books, so little time.

I concur with Bella on Starkey. He does a great job of exploring Jane's entire life, even though very little is known of her life prior to say 1535. Unlike Norton, Starkey stays away from speculation and what ifs. He sticks to the facts, even if there are gaps in the timeline. Jane does not come across as ultra-important (a la KOA and AB), but she is not treated as a non-entity either. A nice balance.

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Bella44 said:

It's been a while since I've read Starkey's book on the wives but from what I remember his was the most complete portrayal of Jane.  I've read the Elizabeth Norton bio on her which i quite enjoyed, nothing amazingly new about Jane but the parts about her family are interesting.

I'm reading Karen Lindsey's take on the wives – 'Divorced, Beheaded, Survived'.  Jane rather comes off as a bit of non-entity in this one. Not much time spent on her at all!  Has anyone else read it?


I started reading it this week and haven't reached Jane yet. It certainly isn't Starkey.

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I've started to read Alison Weir's The Princes In The Tower haven't gotten through much, up to the 3rd chapter introduing the 'villain' Richard Of Gloucester. This is my first time at reading a historical biography (cause I can't think of the right term). The first chapter talking about the sources kinda came across like that part of the bible where everbody is begetting somone. At the moment, I'm finding it a bit dry as she introduces the 'characters' and I am often getting confused with which Richard or Henry or Edward is which. But I'm perservering, even if my quick flick through the other Weir book make them seem more interesting. I've decided that The Princes In The Tower will be my home book and The Shakespeare Secret will be my work book.

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I've just read a Cadfeal mystery...The Summer of the Danes.

 

I'm reading A History of Marriage by Elizabeth Abbott. It's certainly helped in understanding the differences in marfriage customs not only between countries but also social classes.

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TinaII2None said:

Anyanka said:

Does anyone know the name of the author who writes about sailing ships in the Sharpe mould? I read one many years ago and enjoyed it.

 

oh! you mean she-who-shall-not-be named!


Don't know if anyone has answered you yet but that would be Patrick O'Brien who created the wonderful characters Captain Jack Aubrey and his ship's surgeon/spymaster Stephen Maturin. It's a twenty book series; the 21st was not completed due to O'Brien's death but was released a few years ago.
 

And my favorite movie of all time Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World starring Russell Crowe and Paul Bettany and directed by Peter Weir combines several of the books.

She-Who-Shall-Not-Be-Named….A force that would make Voldemort run for the hills.Laugh


It probably is. I know I haven't read Master and Commander which is why I never thought of him first.

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I just finished re-reading David Starkey's Virtuous Prince. This is one amazing book. I learned so much about Henry's early life and enjoyed Starkey's analysis of what events, people, experiences impacted Henry (negatively or positively) through the rest of his younger years, and create reflections of him later in life.

I am excited, too, because the sequal to Virtuous Prince is being published September 2011 in the UK. It's titled Henry: Model of a Tyrant. I'll have to order it from Amazon.uk. Should be a good read too.

Since there are so many pages to thread (and I'm too lazy to go look), has anyone here read Stieg Larsson's Millennium Trilogy? I bought them awhile ago, but never got around to read them. I would love to know some opinions on the books.

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I have …..I enjoyed them a lot once I checked my brain in at the door.

 

One of the things I found on re-reading them was spoilers ahead how perfect  both Lizbeth and Michel were. LIzbeth jumped from an competant to a maths genius able to solve Ferman's equation and take out 2  bikers without breaking a sweat

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