Avatar
Please consider registering
guest
sp_LogInOut Log Insp_Registration Register
Register | Lost password?
Advanced Search
Forum Scope


Match



Forum Options



Minimum search word length is 3 characters - maximum search word length is 84 characters
sp_Feed Topic RSSsp_TopicIcon
Divorced Beheaded Beheaded Divorced Beheaded Survived...
June 30, 2011
6:16 am
Avatar
E
Member
Banned
Forum Posts: 256
Member Since:
May 19, 2011
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

What if the Seymour had thrown a girl- or not conceived at all? In view of Henry's comments that he should have enjoyed the single life before his third marriage and sampled some other ladies; could Jane have met the same fate as Anne? And would she have been so dignified?

"A fresh young damsel, who could trip and go"

June 30, 2011
1:45 pm
Avatar
Anne fan
Leicestershire
Member
Members
Forum Posts: 123
Member Since:
February 10, 2010
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

If Anne had given birth to a healthy son she would not have been vulnerable. Her problem was that having challenged Catherine and won, she proved it could be done.

 

Henry could never understand why Anne didn't behave as a queen and ignore his 'flirtations'. Anne was intelligent enough to realise that her position was always open to challenge, particularly as many people didn't think she was the rightful queen. While Catherine of Aragon lived Anne was relatively safe because if Henry had decided to discard her the pressure to go back to Catherine would have been immense. Once Catherine died and Anne fell out with Cromwell over how the funds from the dissolved monasteries should be used she was vulnerable.

 

It's difficult to know what would have happened with Jane.  When I was researching my novel I found her the most difficult of Henry's queens to get a handle on. I suspect she wouldn't have fallen out with Cromwell so she wouldn't have been open to the political putsch that brought Anne down. I suspect she was very careful not to offend Henry so he might have accepted he was destined to father only girls. On the other hand, eight days after their wedding he met two attractive women and was lamenting his haste in remarrying so maybe she would have been discarded. I wonder whether she had the intelligence to seize the opportunity in the way Anne of Cleves did?

July 1, 2011
1:01 pm
Avatar
Sharon
Binghamton, NY
Member
Members
Forum Posts: 2114
Member Since:
February 24, 2010
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

Jane would have been history if she had not produce a boy.   Henry was not going to settle with girls.  The man was obsessed with having a male heir.  The girls mentioned by Anne fan would have been tops on his list for his next marriage.  I'm sure he was thinking if Jane didn't give him a son and soon, he'd be moving on.  Unlike KOA who refused Henry's offer of retiring to a convent, Jane might well have taken him up on it. 

July 1, 2011
2:50 pm
Avatar
Anyanka
La Belle Province
Member
Members
Forum Posts: 2333
Member Since:
November 18, 2010
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

I think that Jane would have jumped at the chance at retiring to a convent given Henry's previous behaviour…

It's always bunnies.

July 1, 2011
9:27 pm
Avatar
E
Member
Banned
Forum Posts: 256
Member Since:
May 19, 2011
sp_UserOfflineSmall Offline

Yes.. I imagine she would be there the very day of giving birth to a girl! If she refused the sensible offer of a convent, I wonder what the trumped up charges would be? Her and her brothers locked up in the tower under suspicion of conspiracy to murder the late Queen Anne…

"A fresh young damsel, who could trip and go"

Forum Timezone: Europe/London
Most Users Ever Online: 214
Currently Online:
Guest(s) 1
Top Posters:
Anyanka: 2333
Boleyn: 2285
Sharon: 2114
Bella44: 933
DuchessofBrittany: 846
Mya Elise: 781
Member Stats:
Guest Posters: 1
Members: 425807
Moderators: 0
Admins: 1
Forum Stats:
Groups: 1
Forums: 13
Topics: 1681
Posts: 22777
Newest Members:
suki60, WaverlyScott, Edwards Harlie, laylataylor, King1Landyn
Administrators: Claire: 958