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Katherine of Aragon In This Painting?
October 27, 2010
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Tina, they are just not showing up.  Even the url's aren't showing.  But I'll try again.  I see these ladies in many of the paintings: “Virgin and Child.”  “Our Lady of the fly” is definitely Isabella sitting with the book in her hand.  “The Marriage at Cana” is either Katherine or Isabella.  “Virgin Among Angels” looks like they are all in that.  But like I said I stared at these painting til I was crosseyed and saw the women in all of them. http://en.wikipedia.org/Gerard_David.  Then there is this, “Adoration of the Kings,” in which the woman looks like one of the ladies also.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jan_Mabuse  If the urls don't show up, go to Gerard David paintings on wikipedia.  3/4's of the way down the page are his paintings and they lead you to Mabuse.  Have fun.

And the urls aren't showing up!  Sorry.  You'll have to go to Wikipedia.

October 27, 2010
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Sharon said:

Tina, they are just not showing up.  Even the url's aren't showing.  But I'll try again.  I see these ladies in many of the paintings: “Virgin and Child.”  “Our Lady of the fly” is definitely Isabella sitting with the book in her hand.  “The Marriage at Cana” is either Katherine or Isabella.  “Virgin Among Angels” looks like they are all in that.  But like I said I stared at these painting til I was crosseyed and saw the women in all of them. http://en.wikipedia.org/Gerard_David.  Then there is this, “Adoration of the Kings,” in which the woman looks like one of the ladies also.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jan_Mabuse  If the urls don't show up, go to Gerard David paintings on wikipedia.  3/4's of the way down the page are his paintings and they lead you to Mabuse.  Have fun.

And the urls aren't showing up!  Sorry.  You'll have to go to Wikipedia.


Okay Sharon this is weird, but when I clicked on quote and reply, the links for Wiki appeared! So I'm going to try to check those out and my appreciation for them. The ones I saw yesterday when I was first checking out the works, the women looked so familiar based on other portraits I've seen. (And the one of Katherine of Aragon as Mary Magdalene is a great favorite of mine, the one I always think of when I visualize her). Anyway, I'll definitely have fun looking at them! Thanks!

Henry: Mistress Anne, will you teach the king of England how they dance in the French court?
Anne: There is nothing that France can teach England, your majesty.
King Henry VIII: Well said. Well said.
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October 28, 2010
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Image EnlargerThis is the picture of Isabella that I thought was stunning. Maybe if you click Quote and reply you will be able to see it.

October 28, 2010
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Sharon said:

Image EnlargerThis is the picture of Isabella that I thought was stunning. Maybe if you click Quote and reply you will be able to see it.


I don't know if it'll appear again when everyone sees my comments, but that is an absolutely wonderful painting of Isabella! And clicking Quote and Reply worked! Thank you!! I'm tired and racking my poor brain right now (worked last night; working tonight), but I'm trying to remember something Mary Luke said in her bio Catherine, the Queen. She mentions that people often think Isabella “very English looking” but I think it was due to her having an English ancestor — unfortunately, I can't remember which one right now. Anyone know? (Never mind — found it! 😀 John of Gaunt!)
And to pay you back for that lovely portrait, here is my favorite of her daughter — see if this works: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F…..ow_002.jpg. I saw this years ago, after seeing Keith Michell's Henry series and realized that THIS was the young woman who once won his heart (as opposed to the aged Catherine we always see). Now just once…can't we get a red-haired, petite Catherine in a Tudor movie? 

NOTE: I've tried 4 times to get the Wiki link to Catherine's portrait to show up but it hasn't. If it still doesn't, try http://www.blenheimpalace.com/…..aragon.jpg. Stupid hyperlinks. GRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

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Anne: There is nothing that France can teach England, your majesty.
King Henry VIII: Well said. Well said.
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October 29, 2010
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Well…Sorry.  I couldn't even get to the sites you put up.  I did see them when I clicked Quote and Reply.  The sites didn't come up right for me.  If you mean the picture of Catherine in the painting, The Virgin and Child, and The Mary Magdalene painting I have seen them and she was quite lovely.  It is understandable that Henry wanted her. Beside the fact that she was his brother's widow and Henry's Father was not too keen on them marrying. Yes, she was a redhead taking after her Mother who was a descendant of John of Gaunt.  It would be nice if we could see that Catherine in the movies. Instead we get dark haired actresses to play her because she was Spanish and therefore, she must have been dark and dowdy.  And always wore black.  Although I did like Marie Doyle Kennedy in The Tudors.  She is in Dexter this season and she actually has red hair in the show.  Why they had her with it black in The Tudors is beyond me.

November 4, 2010
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Sharon said:

Well…Sorry.  I couldn't even get to the sites you put up.  I did see them when I clicked Quote and Reply.  The sites didn't come up right for me.  If you mean the picture of Catherine in the painting, The Virgin and Child, and The Mary Magdalene painting I have seen them and she was quite lovely.  It is understandable that Henry wanted her. Beside the fact that she was his brother's widow and Henry's Father was not too keen on them marrying. Yes, she was a redhead taking after her Mother who was a descendant of John of Gaunt.  It would be nice if we could see that Catherine in the movies. Instead we get dark haired actresses to play her because she was Spanish and therefore, she must have been dark and dowdy.  And always wore black.  Although I did like Marie Doyle Kennedy in The Tudors.  She is in Dexter this season and she actually has red hair in the show.  Why they had her with it black in The Tudors is beyond me.


I don't know what's up with the link problem 🙁 I hate that.  But yes, those were the ones I meant, and yes, I can see why the young Henry would have wanted her.

I just don't get why they have never cast a petite redhead in the role, unless they believe that no one would think a Spaniard could have red hair. (I was once watching A Room with a View and there was a very small role featuring a young blonde Italian girl; one of those watching with me said out loud, “Hey — there's no such thing as a blonde Italian. That's stupid.”) And you're also right about them always having Catherine in black. Catherine loved vibrancy, as did Mary, who is usually portrayed wearing black too. I like Marie Doyle Kennedy too but unfortunately I won't get to see Dexter's new season until it comes out on DVD — I don't own cable.

Henry: Mistress Anne, will you teach the king of England how they dance in the French court?
Anne: There is nothing that France can teach England, your majesty.
King Henry VIII: Well said. Well said.
– Anne of the Thousand Days (1969)

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