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Lady Jane (film) & Innocent Traitor: A Novel of Lady Jane Grey by Alison Weir (novel)
October 17, 2009
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Gina
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I have recently read Innocent Traitor by Alison Weir. I really found it a riveting novel and my heart went out to Jane Grey. The poor child was really mistreated and manipulated by her parents and John Dudley.  I don't want to reveal too much of the plot because I really would recommend this book!!

I watched the file about her shortly after completing the book and was pleasantly surprised. It also portrayed the lady Jane Grey being punished and manipulated, but added a love story whereas the book suggested anything but.

If anyone else has read the book or watched the movie I would love to discuss it!

XO-Gina

October 18, 2009
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I've read that book a million times.. I think the way Weir brings her to life is amazing. I REALLY wanted to smack her mother with that whip OMG. I don't know if there is a movie, I've never heard of one. But it's an awesome book.

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October 18, 2009
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I have read/seen both and must admit that neither is my favourite work about Lady Jane Grey, who I am very interested in. Alison Weir's novel is a great book and did in a way spark my interest in the Tudor period – the film irritated me because of the 1980s hairstyles and the ridiculous romantic stuff, though again it was an all right story. But after reading Leanda de Lisle's 'The Sisters who would be Queen' about the Grey sisters, I am afraid that my opinion of both has slipped, since they're so historically inaccurate. Both rely heavily, almost solely, on the Victorian stereotypes of Frances Grey being a female Henry VIII and everyone picking on poor Jane who never wanted to be Queen. This is horribly far from the truth and Frances was a perfectly ordinary woman and Jane was a driven Protestant fanatic who was willing to usurp her cousin's (who had always been very friendly to her) claim to the throne and could be very rude when she wanted to. That said, she's still one of my favourite historical figures! It's just annoying to see so many silly myths included in 'popular' history, and Jane presented as a victim when she had a will of her own.

October 19, 2009
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Lady to Anne Boleyn, The movie is called Lady Jane and is totally worth a looksee if you can get your hands on it! As Flora points out it was filmed in the 80's and the love story is a bit contrived but, if you loved the Alison Weir book it is definately worth checking out!

Flora, I am going to try to find the Leanda de Lisle book because I am totally intrigued now and just saw that she posted on here as well! Thanks! I am a big Tudor era fiction fan…I also read non-fiction. Any other books you might recommend?

I see Eric Ives name all over here so I am gonna hit him up too!

XO-Gina

October 20, 2009
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The movie Lady Jane is pretty old now – 80's and looks dated. It looked pretty dated at the time, I thought, being rather corny and was not exactly true to fact. Helena Bonam-Carter was all sweetness and Guildford was dashing and romantic. Probably pretty way off the mark. But the scenery and costumes were beautiful.

The thing to remember about movies is the characters have to be strong and clear-cut. Movie goers don't like complex, wishy- washy characters. Jane was in fact a very interesting person in real life, and had a hard, stubborn side to her character as well as being someone who was very well-educated and probably genuinely put upon and exploited by both her parents and by John Dudley.  She was young – at a time when being 15 years old was still considered very young – much younger than it seems to us today. So she was not expected to have too much say in the political designs she became caught up in. She was also very brave, I think. Her final letter to her father shows a forgiveness and a genuine nobility of spirit which has inspired poets, writers and painters over the centuries. And rightly so. The elevation of Jane to heroine status reached its apogee in the Victorian era. See:

http://www.squidoo.com/jane-grey

when her innocence became synonymous with many other perceived forms of lost innocence. But recently, too, novelists have taken up her case – such as Alison Weir, and also non-fiction in the very latest Ives book. So Jane is making something of a comeback. Not quite as racy as Anne Boleyn, and no juicy scandal attached to her story, but she is a tragic and heroic figure, for all that. She deserves to be remembered, I think.

October 21, 2009
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Innocent Traitor by Alison Weir

Not long finished and also The Lady Elizabeth both books i found GREAT 

I RECOMMEND BOTH 

Im now a fan of Alison Weir

I believe Death is not the end

October 23, 2009
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So am I as long as The Lady Elizabeth is concerned, Rochie. i think the complex relationship between Mary and Elizabeth was axactly as it is described in it. is Innocent Traitor as good?Thanks!

October 23, 2009
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Hi Lexy!

Yes. Innocent traitor – as one would expect is excellent on research. I think it was her first bit of published fiction. A wonderful read. I like Alison Weir. The only thing I didn't like about it was the title – because Jane was not a traitor – and I believe that even at the time she was seen by friends and enemies as the innocent pawn in the game of politics and not disloyal in any sense to her country or family. Another reason why the Victorians loved her – home and country being central to the way society was structured in the 19th century.

October 24, 2009
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Lexy, I would definitely say to read The Innocent Traitor. I think if you liked The Lady Elizabeth, that you would enjoy it also. I has piqued my interest in the Jane Grey story! 

It is a bit sad and you will want to beat up her mother yourself as well as Guilford Dudley.  I feel that the smartest women of that period were constantly manipulated by those around them.

If and when you do read it, let me know what you think!

-XO Gina

October 25, 2009
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Thanks a lot for the advice, Rochie and Gina! I'm gonna order the book and surely enjoy it, then I'll tell you what I thought of it. Gina, I totally agree with what you said: at this time women, even smart and brilliant, were the puppets of their families, their husband and their faction. I think that they only ound ways to emancipate, at least a little, in eighteenth century, even if it was just recognition for their smartness ( like the rench mathematician Emilie du Châtelet) or the possibility to choose their lover. 

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